[quote=07 Boss;11917938]I put HID's in my stock housings. They turn night into day but they are obnoxious. I don't drive much at night when there are other cars but the few that pass me the other way are not happy. Never found anything else that I was happy with.
Sidenote: When I pulled mine apart to paint them I removed the little hanging down cup thingy. Not all headlights have these but I'm sure it adds to the glare.
Where did you get your HID's?
What wattage are they?
I was curious about the part you removed, did it have a reflective coating on the inside?
I'm thinking that is hampering a lot of light output, these are aftermarket lights and that thingy part seems to be bigger than the one on my stock lights.
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You said you got HIDs, and an LED conversion. What color temp (K) were the bulbs? Stock lights are right around the 4500-4700K range usually, or a little lower (towards the yellow light side [daylight]. The clearest/most output color temps will be just a tad higher in the 5000K to 5500K range (pure, white light, no blue tint). As you go up from there into the slight blue (6000K to 7000K), darker blue (7000k - ~8500K), and purples/pinks/greens > 9000K, you lose output. The farther from white light you are the less output you will have.
In a stock housing the cutoff is horrid on HIDs (and LEDs may not work too well due how they reflect, not too sure here, havent done LEDs myself). You will need to adjust where/how you aim your lights for HIDs to work well in stock housings. Also, without a projector, the high beam and low beam of HIDs are practically identical (as there is nothing cutting it off for low beam). This can skew your perception of light output as well, as you wont notice change from high beam and low beam as you would on the stock lights.
Let us know what color temp your bulbs are, and maybe a few pics. I ran DDM tuning brand 35W, 6000k in my 2004 F150, and in my 03 mustang for a while. In the truck on stock housings, it was an amazing change, even with the blue hue. My mustang I couldnt see anything no matter the bulb, because I had super dark housings. I went to an HID retrofit, with clear lenses, and Morimoto 6000K, and the mustang lights up the streets like the factory HID cars now.
I got the 5000k
I don't understand what you're talking about the "cutoff" in the stock housing.
I emailed the company to discuss my being unhappy especially since the low beam on one of the bulbs did not work from day one.
When I explained to them that the color difference between the high and low beam we're complete opposites, customer service responded with, " the HIDs are only used on the low beam!! "
(I was not aware of this)
And that the high beams on HIDs are equivalent to an average halogen
What???? Why would I want the 5000k only on the low beam and why would I want the low beam to be better than the high beam?
The purpose of me ordering HIDs was to see better at night not to have a white color only on low beam!!
The company advertises that there HIDs will improve light output by an average of 300%. So can you explain to me because I'm lost as to how you improve light output by 300% but only on low beam and not high beam?? Wouldn't that kind of equate too then you'll be blinding people on low beam??
The company's response to my email I've quoted below.
"The HIDs are only applied to the low beams and not the high beams. High beams would typically use normal halogen lighting. As for the HID bulbs not working, have you done any HID troubleshooting? Perhaps you may have to reverse the polarity in order to have the HIDs work. Because the connection from the ballasts to the vehicle’s wiring harness are a universal setup, you may have to flip the polarity in order to get the wiring to match.
To do this, you would just simply disconnect the way you originally had the ballasts connected to the wiring harness, turn the plug from the ballasts the other way around, almost 180 degrees and connect them back again. Please let me know once you have done so and if anything has changed as far as the lighting output."
I didn't realize there were that many different ways of manufacturing light sockets? Because every light socket on a car I've unplugged and plugged in my life all only go one way because there is a locking mechanism molded into one part of the plug, so you can't turn them around 180 degrees.
Then I could not figure out why I could not get the bulbs to go in the same way on each light, upon closer look they assembled each bulb opposite with the three locking nubs, I'm sure you're aware of what I'm talking about in the sense that one of the nubs is larger and different shape than the other two and you can only install the bulb one way, so that alone makes a huge difference as to how the light is reflected in the housing.
You will see this in the pictures below try not to laugh too hard.
The picture of the white light is only one low beam working, the other picture is the high beams on and both high beams are working but one bulb is obviously opposite then the other as I explained above.
when the car is out on the road and you turn the high beams on you can barely see in front of you the light just goes everywhere 40-50 ft in the air lighting up the tree tops, I could see better with one low beam working then both high beams! Lmao.
And now you're telling me that you're Morimoto retrofit HID's light up the streets like late model HID cars that come stock from the factory?
Because if that's the case that's impressive.
That's exactly something of what I'm trying to accomplish, late model cars with HIDs are great to drive at night.