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December 15th, 2015 11:51 AM
HiMyNameIsWyatt
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Yes, I do.

Go here to hear my arguments if you'd like. It was debated for several pages. Grab your popcorn.

*buy Wyatt's Popcorn.

December 15th, 2015 11:42 AM
RAGEman Yes, I do.

Go here to hear my arguments if you'd like. It was debated for several pages. Grab your popcorn.
December 15th, 2015 03:49 AM
raz187 do I believe in man's god? um, no. that would be an error on my part.
December 14th, 2015 06:59 PM
Tpony Do I believe in God? Yes, period.
December 14th, 2015 03:58 PM
Austang
December 14th, 2015 03:17 AM
fb93 Morgan Freeman. That is all.
December 13th, 2015 08:12 AM
Lemkau77 Yes I do, but I don't push my beliefs on anyone else. I also don't care what anyone else believes in or what they do with their lives. I'm probably not as traditional as some, and believe that the bible is more of a guide than something written in stone telling you that everything is 100% true and you must do everything just as it was written.
December 12th, 2015 10:31 PM
Rhythm Stick
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Originally Posted by Sixpointslow View Post
Have you ever used a bidet though? Why we don't have them is beyond me.
If my wife and I ever build a house, all the bathrooms will have bidets.
December 12th, 2015 10:25 PM
Blackwid0wXR7 No. I follow what is logical, and knowing the fact that I will never know what occured before my time with 100% accuracy, I don't really care. All I know is that I am here now, and I am going to live my life as humble as possible till I croak. What happens after that...happens, I'm not going to waste my sand worrying too much about it.
December 12th, 2015 01:10 AM
Sixpointslow
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Originally Posted by BWAL View Post
i've heard about the ass wiping thing and decided to look into it to see if there was a reason for that. found this wikipedia article. holy shit. (no pun intended, honestly)
Have you ever used a bidet though? Why we don't have them is beyond me.
December 11th, 2015 08:26 PM
Royal96
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Originally Posted by BWAL View Post
i've heard about the ass wiping thing and decided to look into it to see if there was a reason for that. found this wikipedia article. holy shit. (no pun intended, honestly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_toilet_etiquette
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Eating any food while on the toilet is strictly forbidden
Well shit, guess I'm never becoming a Muslim.
December 11th, 2015 02:49 PM
BWAL
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Originally Posted by Woodman View Post
Whether it's Muslims who believe that everyone has to be muslim, has to have a beard, and wipe their ass with their bare left hand
i've heard about the ass wiping thing and decided to look into it to see if there was a reason for that. found this wikipedia article. holy shit. (no pun intended, honestly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_toilet_etiquette
December 11th, 2015 02:42 PM
Eagle2000GT
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Originally Posted by Austang View Post
I agree that its a good teaching story.
My problem is they want us to believe it as truth.
People are free to believe what they want. I am free to disagree with them. And no one in this country is free to impose their beliefs on others.

The problem as I see it is that they want us to believe it as the literal truth. There is a difference between religious truth and literal truth. The religious truth in the story is that God warned Noah of the flood. At great sacrifice Noah followed God's instructions and was able to save his family. The secular truth is that we should sacrifice immediate gratification to save for future hardships. The historical truth is that using a big boat a man was able to save his family and animals from a flood.
December 11th, 2015 02:17 PM
Woodman
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I agree that its a good teaching story.
My problem is they want us to believe it as truth.
Because at some point a long, long time ago they decided that the parables WERE the truth, instead of educational stories meant to teach a lesson. I see the stories in the Bible along the same lines as Aesop's fables. Entertaining stories meant to make you think in the back of your mind about things.

The issue is, we have people in positions of power over us (parents, priests/pastors) who have been told their whole lives that it's "THE TRUTH" and so it must be.

Same thing for those who take things to extremes, and are taught something from early on. You need enough strength of will to realize that their "truth" may actually be missing the point the rest of their teachings are telling you.

Whether it's Muslims who believe that everyone has to be muslim, has to have a beard, and wipe their ass with their bare left hand or Christians who believe that they are to treat everyone with love and respect except those damn dirty gays, they're missing the point. The point should be, be as good as you can be. Don't screw other people over, and be nice.
December 11th, 2015 01:42 PM
Austang
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Originally Posted by Eagle2000GT View Post
Sorry I should have been more clear. Literally means that something is exactly true. Not literally means it isn't exactly true. That is why I mentioned the possible origins of the story. The essence of the story (going back before its inclusion into the Jewish religion) is the story of a man who listens to God against the advice of his neighbors and prepares for a possible flood. By doing so he is able to save his family and his animals (very important in an agricultural society).

It's a teaching story. It doesn't matter if it was a worldwide flood or not. Noah became aware of a danger. He tried to tell his neighbors but they wouldn't listen. He made sacrifices to prepare for the danger and in doing so saved his family.

This is a story that is relevant for the religious and non-religious alike. I buy earthquake and flood insurance even though we have a very low risk earthquakes and floods in my area. I don't spend every penny I make. I put something aside out of every check for a "rainy" day (pun intended).
I agree that its a good teaching story.
My problem is they want us to believe it as truth.
December 11th, 2015 01:28 PM
Eagle2000GT
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Originally Posted by Austang View Post
I have no doubt there great floods that destroyed cities. We still have them today.

But the massive size that the ark would have to be is beyond comprehension.

Not to mention the fact that every air breathing animal on earth is now a product of incest.

2 doors and 1 window for ventilation, Heck most of them would die from carbon dioxide poisoning.

Also the reasoning for the flood. Because the world had become riddled with sin. Well god sure didn't think to far ahead cause that sure didn't work out so well.


Last thought about Noah's Ark, Do you realize the amount of Febreeze you would need on that damn thing. It would stink worse than the aftermath of eating Taco Bell for a week straight.
Sorry I should have been more clear. Literally means that something is exactly true. Not literally means it isn't exactly true. That is why I mentioned the possible origins of the story. The essence of the story (going back before its inclusion into the Jewish religion) is the story of a man who listens to God against the advice of his neighbors and prepares for a possible flood. By doing so he is able to save his family and his animals (very important in an agricultural society).

It's a teaching story. It doesn't matter if it was a worldwide flood or not. Noah became aware of a danger. He tried to tell his neighbors but they wouldn't listen. He made sacrifices to prepare for the danger and in doing so saved his family.

This is a story that is relevant for the religious and non-religious alike. I buy earthquake and flood insurance even though we have a very low risk earthquakes and floods in my area. I don't spend every penny I make. I put something aside out of every check for a "rainy" day (pun intended).
December 11th, 2015 01:06 PM
mustangmaniac95 [QUOTE=BWAL;11235738]that sounds staged lol


Lol, this was when I was like in 4th grade I think. It's possible but I don't think they would've staged something like that since that would be really sacrilegious lol
December 11th, 2015 01:00 PM
Nasty
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Originally Posted by Austang View Post
Yes, there is no proof about how they built them only theories.
Semantics, we know how they did it.. Sand, water, and many years of manual labor. Proof of it was deleted when the Egyptians accidentally deleted the video of it from their YouTube account.
December 11th, 2015 11:55 AM
Destination S197
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What is it, Religion discussion week on the mustang forums.
"The REAL Truth About Religion And Its Origins"
I just sit here and go on with my life. The only reason I debate is because I usually get pulled into it. I see too many people using their faith as a means to dictate life for others through persuasion or laws.

A lot of people seem to forget though that when we're talking about religion, all of the burden of proof falls upon those making the claim of a higher being and NO burden lies on those who do not believe in it. You can't prove something doesn't exist, you must prove that it does exist. It isn't my job as a non believer to disprove a deity but it's up to it's believers to beyond a shadow of a doubt show proof of the claim, and a book doesn't count otherwise I'm just as likely to believe middle earth is a real place.
December 11th, 2015 11:29 AM
Austang What is it, Religion discussion week on the mustang forums.
"The REAL Truth About Religion And Its Origins"
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