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Yesterday 05:15 PM
dr.gonzo! Rent/housing stole all the mod money. If it runs 10's I should be able to get 30 mph, stretche out in massaging recliner, have central air and high speed internet, washer/dryer. Hybrid turbo winnebago?
Yesterday 04:44 PM
BWAL who is james holmes

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nvm googled him, he's cute

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oh

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oh boy
Yesterday 04:39 PM
WickedSnake00
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Originally Posted by BWAL View Post
i might hit a theater just to see if there's a car turnout like when there's a new F&F
Hit how? Like visit? Or like Paul Walker style?

...or James Holmes style?




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couldn't decide if i wanted to drive a ford or a ferrari that day but my butler informed me that i don't have a ferrari,
Ferrari, Fiero, Fiesta, all the same.


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he doesn't even exist, and that i should see a psychiatrist that day instead
I HATE THE PSYCHIATRIST I'M NOT GOING

Yesterday 04:20 PM
BWAL i might hit a theater just to see if there's a car turnout like when there's a new F&F

couldn't decide if i wanted to drive a ford or a ferrari that day but my butler informed me that i don't have a ferrari, he doesn't even exist, and that i should see a psychiatrist that day instead
Yesterday 04:06 PM
69fastback
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Originally Posted by WickedSnake00 View Post
In a world where I can get just about any movie streamed to me, why would I get up, find a parking spot, wait in line for tickets, pay $25, walk across some sticky floors, endure 45min of ear shattering previews for sequels that never should have been made, just to sit through a movie with babies screaming and phones lighting up, when I could sit bare ass naked on my couch with no one to escort me out for being "drunk and belligerent" at home and watch it?
And again.......I agree. That's why I have 7.1 in my living room.
Yesterday 04:02 PM
WickedSnake00 In a world where I can get just about any movie streamed to me, why would I get up, find a parking spot, wait in line for tickets, pay $25, walk across some sticky floors, endure 45min of ear shattering previews for sequels that never should have been made, just to sit through a movie with babies screaming and phones lighting up, when I could sit bare ass naked on my couch with no one to escort me out for being "drunk and belligerent" at home and watch it?
Yesterday 03:46 PM
Austin
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Must be some kinda Colorado pussy theaters. I figured it was everywhere that they turn the volume up so high that your ears start bleeding.

My biggest issue is that in most IMAX theaters I have to sneak in a flask of whiskey instead of getting table service.
I don't think speakers can go loud enough to snuff the sound of the common eater as they desperately try to show off how terrible their manners are.
Yesterday 03:39 PM
socialist
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Originally Posted by Austin View Post
I need to go see that. I just hate theaters because all you can hear is the person next to you eating popcorn.
Must be some kinda Colorado pussy theaters. I figured it was everywhere that they turn the volume up so high that your ears start bleeding.

My biggest issue is that in most IMAX theaters I have to sneak in a flask of whiskey instead of getting table service.
Yesterday 03:32 PM
Austin
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speaking of Obama - just bought my IMAX tickets for Ford vs Ferrari
I need to go see that. I just hate theaters because all you can hear is the person next to you eating popcorn.
Yesterday 03:16 PM
socialist speaking of Obama - just bought my IMAX tickets for Ford vs Ferrari
Yesterday 03:13 PM
Austin fuckin obama
Yesterday 02:37 PM
dr.gonzo! Why do news websites waste bandwidth on a video that when you play it just plays drums and string music but still makes you read? Fuck that's the entire reason I clicked play. Trying to eat and you read the shit to me.
Yesterday 02:23 PM
WickedSnake00 Rage Against the Machine is just Limp Bizkit for communists.

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Originally Posted by dr.gonzo! View Post
Falling asleep on a pullout couch with no mattress playing vidya games > going to my comfortable bed
My couch pulls out but I don't.

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Ford apparently decided last week they are calling the new Mach E a Mustang.

That was a retarded idea.
Time to make the SN-16 debacle look tame. Looks like they took a cue from Mitsubishi and the Lancer.

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The SUV/CUV thing is the worst thing that's ever happened. I regularly bitch about the ecosport. What was wrong with the Fiesta being a few inches lower to the ground and having a little less headroom, which it already has plenty?

"I can't do a fiesta, I need an SUV if it snows."

"You live in Florida, if it snows the roads will be closed, you won't be going anywhere"

"Well I need it for the rear leg room for my friends."

"It's the same amount of leg room, it sucks ass in both."

"I need it for my dog"

"Do you have a big dog?"

"She is a tea cup Pomeranian, but she hyperventilates if she is in a small car."

"Jesus Christ, Karen."
I'm not a fan of the CUV but I get it, at least when it's well executed. The C-max was trash. The Buick Encore (and by extension the Traxx) has a shocking amount of room for the footprint that it occupies. It makes for a really practical car, though certainly not a performance one. Absolutely not my cup of tea but I get it.

I remember laughing at the stupid "urban high tech" concept cars Detroit was putting out 10 years ago, but I guess I was the stupid one. They're the future; a blocky high tech room on wheels with minimal human interaction. That is if we don't rapidly transition to a vehicle service market like Ford is banking on.
Yesterday 02:13 PM
socialist
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The SUV/CUV thing is the worst thing that's ever happened. I regularly bitch about the ecosport. What was wrong with the Fiesta being a few inches lower to the ground and having a little less headroom, which it already has plenty?

"I can't do a fiesta, I need an SUV if it snows."

"You live in Florida, if it snows the roads will be closed, you won't be going anywhere"

"Well I need it for the rear leg room for my friends."

"It's the same amount of leg room, it sucks ass in both."

"I need it for my dog"

"Do you have a big dog?"

"She is a tea cup Pomeranian, but she hyperventilates if she is in a small car."

"Jesus Christ, Karen."
Yup.

Unfortunately this is the free market at work. Death of these forums, although accelerated by colossal fuckups by the companies that own them, was really just a symptom. Interest in enthusiast vehicles has seemed to wane in the next generation of kiddos. Speaking to Gen-X parents, I hear way more frequently things like "my kid doesn't care about getting their license".

I'm sure all of you boomers and wannabe-boomers will say it's all the EPA and Obama's fault, but the enthusiast crowd is shrinking and the generation after ours cares less about driving. Whether powered by electric motors or not, the design philosophy is heading into "practical but looks cool".

Us enthusiasts are a niche market now and I'll bet all of us combined don't have nearly as much information on the direction of the future as Ford and other manufacturer's marketing analysis. And at the end of the day, the people at the top deciding where to put the money don't give a fuck about a handful of people sitting the wings waiting to buy some rich twat's used performance car once their lease is over.

Definitely seems like I need to snag another Mustang in the next few years and plan to hold onto it for the forseeable future so I can spend at least a decade or so of enjoying the whole "actually driving the car" thing.
Yesterday 01:51 PM
Austin
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Originally Posted by socialist View Post
Oh I'm aware.

I don't mean from a financial perspective though, I mean from a "holding on to the small enthusiast market" perspective since Ford has generally tried to hold on to that reputation since the early 90s or so.

But I suppose most non-specialty automobile brands are more or less slowly moving towards abandoning "financially attainable" performance cars in favor of moving towards "make it look sporty and nobody will care", except I guess GM with the mid-engine Corvette - but who really knows the long term financial viability of that either.

I'm generally fine with the inevitable move away from 100% ICE, but I still want a nimble two door coupe. I'll miss the fun V8 noises, but I'll still be able to get those by purchasing an older model.

It'll just suck if they move their performance category to CUV's and completely rid themselves of two door coupes.
The SUV/CUV thing is the worst thing that's ever happened. I regularly bitch about the ecosport. What was wrong with the Fiesta being a few inches lower to the ground and having a little less headroom, which it already has plenty?

"I can't do a fiesta, I need an SUV if it snows."

"You live in Florida, if it snows the roads will be closed, you won't be going anywhere"

"Well I need it for the rear leg room for my friends."

"It's the same amount of leg room, it sucks ass in both."

"I need it for my dog"

"Do you have a big dog?"

"She is a tea cup Pomeranian, but she hyperventilates if she is in a small car."

"Jesus Christ, Karen."
Yesterday 01:42 PM
socialist
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Originally Posted by Austin View Post
The specialty cars are the expensive ones for the company. They make lots on ecoboost mustang sales, but GT500? Even though it's expensive as hell I bet their spreadsheets show a lot more profit from their base car sales than the big time stuff.

Hand built headers, carbon radiator supports and shock tower mounts, huge ass brakes, composite fenders, millions of radiators, etc.

That shit adds up. It would surprise me if the GT500 has the same margin per car as a base mustang.
Oh I'm aware.

I don't mean from a financial perspective though, I mean from a "holding on to the small enthusiast market" perspective since Ford has generally tried to hold on to that reputation since the early 90s or so.

But I suppose most non-specialty automobile brands are more or less slowly moving towards abandoning "financially attainable" performance cars in favor of moving towards "make it look sporty and nobody will care", except I guess GM with the mid-engine Corvette - but who really knows the long term financial viability of that either.

I'm generally fine with the inevitable move away from 100% ICE, but I still want a nimble two door coupe. I'll miss the fun V8 noises, but I'll still be able to get those by purchasing an older model.

It'll just suck if they move their performance category to CUV's and completely rid themselves of two door coupes.
Yesterday 01:28 PM
Austin The specialty cars are the expensive ones for the company. They make lots on ecoboost mustang sales, but GT500? Even though it's expensive as hell I bet their spreadsheets show a lot more profit from their base car sales than the big time stuff.

Hand built headers, carbon radiator supports and shock tower mounts, huge ass brakes, composite fenders, millions of radiators, etc.

That shit adds up. It would surprise me if the GT500 has the same margin per car as a base mustang.
Yesterday 01:12 PM
socialist
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Originally Posted by Austin View Post
Pony cars sales are junk across the board with chevy leading the decline.

Dodge has a ton of incentives so they are actually hanging in there. I think it was like 2 months ago where they outsold the mustang and camaro, but I don't know how much profit they actually made, and it wasn't by much.
Fuck. Quickest source I could find is this one which is from July.

Camaro down 3.4% YoY. Challenger down 23 fucking percent YoY and Mustang down 9.2% YoY. Mustang sales staying ahead of the others.

Writing may be on the walls for the basic versions of these cars. Can't imagine they'd dump the specialty versions, but who knows at this point.

Still bullshit to move the moniker to a four door crossover. But I can imagine the marketing team doesn't want to lose the name altogether if they end up abandoning two door coupes completely since I imagine it does drive people the brand.

damn zoomers and their empty wallets and disinterest in driving, smh
Yesterday 12:49 PM
Austin Pony cars sales are junk across the board with chevy leading the decline.

Dodge has a ton of incentives so they are actually hanging in there. I think it was like 2 months ago where they outsold the mustang and camaro, but I don't know how much profit they actually made, and it wasn't by much.
Yesterday 12:36 PM
socialist
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Originally Posted by dr.gonzo! View Post
Falling asleep on a pullout couch with no mattress playing vidya games > going to my comfortable bed
lol that sounds awful. Don't pullouts rely on the mattress to provide support for the couch cushions?

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Originally Posted by Austin View Post
Ford apparently decided last week they are calling the new Mach E a Mustang.

That was a retarded idea.
Really? I hadn't seen that. Wow, that's kind of dumb. Why would they not at least start out with a high-performance electric coupe and then boil the frogs over to a CUV? Big yikes.

What are Mustang sales numbers doing? Certainly they're not falling off a cliff yet? That'd be the only reason I could see the executives signing off on the marketing group thinking this is a good idea.
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