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June 26th, 2007 09:46 AM
ChrisJ Figured it was tuner issues...

Tell him to roll your piping so it wont happen again...
June 25th, 2007 11:43 PM
stanglifemike Glad your getting it resolved, keep us updated man.
June 25th, 2007 11:36 PM
catchtheroadrunner Nice thread...It scared the turbo out of me. I hope it works out for you.

Since we're on the subject...Out of 100, how many FI cars would you guys expect to need signficant up front tweaking for any reason (tuner error, install error)?
June 25th, 2007 11:36 PM
catchtheroadrunner Nice thread...It scared the turbo out of me. I hope it works out for you.

Since we're on the subject...Out of 100, how many FI cars would you guys expect to need signficant up front tweaking for any reason (tuner error, install error)?
June 25th, 2007 09:12 PM
Regency 2007 well tuner found the pipe going down from the turbo had poped off and that was causing all the stalling and weird stuff like the injector codes and evap's. Goes back on the dyno tomarrow to make sure everything is alright and he believes he can get rid of the backwash with a little change in tune
June 23rd, 2007 06:47 PM
Regency 2007 ok, I will mention all this to my tuner...
June 23rd, 2007 06:34 PM
ChrisJ Well this sounds like atune issue and if you are not running hellions tune then it cant be hellions fault for the cars codes...

The back wash issue can be remedied by someone fixing the intake piping...You can still use the parts you have you just need to have the BPV tube changed alittle to keep from getting backwash...

Or you could have you tuner change it to a blow-thru design and then you dont ahve to worry about backwashing you MAF...It would require you to ahve some work done and the tune tweaked but it would also allow you to vent to the atmosphere...
June 23rd, 2007 04:14 PM
Regency 2007 I got my bets on it is Hellion's fault because the tune is dead on and very conservative...

My main concern right now is the cam phasor code it threw... hopefully it is something as simple as just the sensor and not the actual cam gear?

Chris, what would I need to do to get rid of the backwash if I dont modify my intake tube, whatever I spend money on to get rid of it, I want to make sure it completly gets rid of it after the first change I make to it... Dont wanna purchase something and then have to buy something else as well to make sure it is gone
June 23rd, 2007 03:12 PM
ChrisJ Bro are you running the hellion tune or did your tuner put in his own?

the piping seems to be hellions fault but the codes would be your tuners if he tuned it...
June 23rd, 2007 02:37 AM
Regency 2007 I was really hopeing my car would be nice and dependable but after today I have kinda lost the faith... I'm gonna give my tuner is good chance at it and if I continue to have trouble with it... I'm going back to N/A or another poweradder (already have KB boost a pump, injectors, plugs, tuner, ect. installed)

There is nothing wrong with my tune or the install, there has to be a problem somewhere in the kit or computer system. If Hellion says there should be no backwash, then I may just have him send me another intake tube/BPV to see if that could be it, forgot to ask tuner if a better BPV would help...
June 23rd, 2007 12:51 AM
TheUNZippee! That sucks bro. Best of luck getting your ride taken care of man.
June 23rd, 2007 12:31 AM
jjuddz Man Regency, I would say it, but I hate to beat a man while he's down...
June 22nd, 2007 10:26 PM
Emay Regency,

I saw a post elsewhere, I'd really have to dig as it's been a month since I read. Was on like chicagosvt or chicagolandmustang. Just drawing a blank on which site it could have been.

Anyway, a guy did a single turbo install, not positive what manufacturer, but had the same codes throw. When I first read the thread it was already like 3 or 4 months old, and all their attempted remedies resulted in all or some of the same codes. I know he was extremely frustrated about backwash, but in their attempt to fix the backwash, they still threw evap codes, at which point the car went to limp mode and then a no start condition almost immediately after. Sounds like you got similar issues.

I'll do some digging, see if I can find it, so at the least you can have a sort of do's and doent's list. Maybe he came to a resolution and you and the tuner can save yourself some time..

Also, I see your postin on modular, try there as well. Numerous turbo guys over there..
June 22nd, 2007 09:05 PM
Regency 2007 Well, the car is dead now! had to get the wrecker to take it to the tuner this afternoon. Car all the sudden threw code for cam phaser, all 8 injectors, and EVAP, and then the typica systems check code. I also told him to fix the back wash and he said we are going to have to add to the pipeing on the intake to make coil around back towards the back of the motor... it's all a mess
June 22nd, 2007 05:39 PM
ChrisJ I was just wanting you to check what the A/F is doing when you let off of it (and it backwashes)...

And yes the putting the car in neutral will work for ya...I had to do it for a week till I fixed mine...But it gets annoying...

Me personaly I would fix the backwash issue before doing anythign else...You can run the cooler to get mor boost out of it but me personally would want to fix the bakwash issue for no other reason then to not to have to put it neutral after a good pull...
June 22nd, 2007 05:25 PM
Regency 2007 I just got off the phone with Hellion and they said I should be able to hit full boost then pop it into neutral without it backwashing, so I called the tuner and he is going to have me bring it back on monday and we are going to throw it back on the dyno and check all the fitting and the BPV, hopefully everything works out!

Next on the list is a Boost Controller to get one more PSI out of it
June 22nd, 2007 05:06 PM
Regency 2007 Ok I will talk to the tuner about it.... I have it SCT tuned and the A/F is pretty much perfect on it.

It starts at around 14 at idle then it is almosta straight line across at 12 through the RPM range and right at 6.5RPM it dips to 11.5 (this is at 101 degrees in the shop)
June 22nd, 2007 04:57 PM
ChrisJ Dont think so but then again I am not sure how your tune is...

My tune would jsut get extremely fat whenever I would let up on the throttle...I fixed it quickly because I did not like it...

I cant see a wideband in your picture so Im guessing you dont have one...

Are you using an xcal2 for tuning? You could datalog with the XCAL2 if you have it...

You could fix it without getting a new BPV...You jsut need to have the tube that comes from the BPV modified...
It will get annoying...
June 22nd, 2007 04:51 PM
Regency 2007 I'm not hurting the car any am I?
June 22nd, 2007 04:40 PM
ChrisJ I think the bend in the pipe might be causeing some of your issues...The one coming right off the BPV...I think a better BPV and someone to straigten the discharge tube for the BPV and you should be set...
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