John, there is plenty of concrete evidence. There was a real time web cast of events to the White House and there's a military base an hour away by air. The CIA requested assistance and it was denied. Anything else is just excuses.
I guess that depends on what you believe is "concrete" evidence.
My "imagine" comment is that we can't say exactly who is responsible for not ordering air support, but we can definitely say that the president has the authority to override anyone's decision and the buck will always stop there.
Agreed! He is the commander in chief and the blame should be ultimately his if in fact there is blame to be had.
You can like the president all you want, but surely you don't excuse this?
My political feelings and my feelings on human life are two different things.
The reality in war is that you never have all the information you want, but you have to act on incomplete information. Our men died because we wanted more information before we acted. Fuck them and their wish for info. The Red Cross knew not to be there but our military doesn't have anybody there to protect the embassy? That's just crazy.
There's a lot of blame to go around, but ultimately the Commander in Chief foots the bill.
True so perhaps the incomplete info he had didn't illustrate the seriousness of the situation at the time. A decision was made and, unfortunately, that decision effected the deaths of our ambassador and 3 other government officials. We don't know what he was provided nor do we know what got filtered before said incomplete info was given to him.
I understand yours and everyone elses frustration in this but rather than go on information that none of us knows is credible or not it would be best for us to see it unfold in it's entirety so that we can see the entire picture and make a judgement based on evidential fact rather than trying to piece it together.
If there was wrongdoing then certainly those responsible need to own up and pay for their transgressions but until then lets stick with one of our nations most sacred beliefs....Innocent until proven guilty!