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View Poll Results: Who is going to win the election?
Trump 19 57.58%
Clinton 11 33.33%
Johnson 2 6.06%
One of those other weirdos... 1 3.03%
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I am dropping off my youngest tomorrow morning and heading to the polls. Casting the vote for Trump as most of you know. Regardless of the results we will move on. I believe Trump is going to pull a landslide victory. Nova, T.Lee, and Sixpoint especially you three I respect the battles we have had over the last few months. Regardless of what happens tomorrow we will move forward as a nation. The President is but a cog in the wheel. It is about the people.
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My dream scenario:

Neither Hillary nor Trump get to 270.

Having witnessed themselves stoop to lower levels than they ever possibly thought they could, the House votes in unison to make Gary "What is Allepo?" Johnson the 45th President of the United States of America. Seriously, Hillary and Trump are fucking criminals. Johnson is just a goober.


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As I've said before, Clinton is going to win. I'd go as far to say she's going to win the popular vote too.

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My dream scenario:

Neither Hillary nor Trump get to 270.

Having witnessed themselves stoop to lower levels than they ever possibly thought they could, the House votes in unison to make Gary "What is Allepo?" Johnson the 45th President of the United States of America. Seriously, Hillary and Trump are fucking criminals. Johnson is just a goober.

We may disagree on a lot of issues but that is not a bad scenario assuming, of course, that Democrats do not win the House. As far as Vice-President, if the Republicans retain control of the Senate it would be Johnson/Pence administration. If the Democrats get control it would be Johnson/Kaine. Since I like Pence I prefer the former over the latter.

P.S. I agree that Johnson is a goober and totally unprepared to be president but I watched the Libertarian debates and convention on television. He was the best they had.

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As I've said before, Clinton is going to win. I'd go as far to say she's going to win the popular vote too.
What a Debbie Downer. You are probably right but I can't think that way. It's too early to get drunk.

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Clinton will win. If it was truly up to us, the people, Trump would probably win by a landslide. Problem is, Hillary and the Clinton foundation along with many of the other elites have this countries balls in their firm grips. They'll do anything they can to rig the election. There's no possible way that a person as corrupt as she is, and had gotten away with as much as she has, won't get her way this time.
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What a Debbie Downer. You are probably right but I can't think that way. It's too early to get drunk.
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I am dropping off my youngest tomorrow morning and heading to the polls. Casting the vote for Trump as most of you know. Regardless of the results we will move on. I believe Trump is going to pull a landslide victory. Nova, T.Lee, and Sixpoint especially you three I respect the battles we have had over the last few months. Regardless of what happens tomorrow we will move forward as a nation. The President is but a cog in the wheel. It is about the people.
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Regardless of what happens tomorrow we will move forward as a nation. The President is but a cog in the wheel. It is about the people.
We will move forward--battle after battle. The President may be a cog in the wheel but a very important cog. If Clinton wins it will be four more years just like the last eight. You can expect major battles over Supreme Court justices. I will be one of those calling my Senators and encouraging them to fight every progressive justice she nominates. I would rather the Court drop to five justices than see her appoint four progressive justices that will interpret our rights away.

I will encourage my Congressmen to fight against, vote down and stall every infringement on second amendment rights and any attempt to nationalize our local police. And as she pushes for more and more intrusive regulations, especially EPA regulations, I will lend my voice to the call for a Constitutional Convention.

We have a philosophically divided nation with one side willing to use the federal government to force its view on the other. Those of us on the other side aren't going to lay down and roll over just because we lost an election. It's the same with the Democrats. They have never given up on Australian-style gun control and over-regulation.

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Hey hey hey. If we take our poll at face value right now, it's almost perfectly aligned with fivethirtyeight's final prediction for popular votes:

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/...ex_cid=rrpromo

40% Trump
46% Clinton
6% Johnson

(keep in mind, this isn't a WANT poll so you don't have to think all your 'stang brothers are Clinton supporters)
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i still just have a really, really hard time believing clinton will win the popular vote. i know that's what the mainstream media will try to make you believe, but few show up to her rallies and she couldn't even fill all the seats at her fucking FREE jay-z concert. let that one sink in.

she's the only presidential candidate i've seen, at least since being old enough to vote, that causes just about everybody on both sides to say "fuck no."

i won't even go into what makes her so bad because i don't have the time to dedicate to it, but people are widely aware of her level of corruption. maybe i'm being naive or stubborn, but if she wins the popular vote, i'd be more inclined to believe there's some kind of manipulation going on, be it through poll fuckery, or MSM lies

but with all that being said, of course she'll win. she has everybody who is anybody in her pocket. she has an almost unrivaled amount of power in the world and will do anything, bribe anybody, and blackmail anybody to get to the top. but her bullshit won't stop there, it will just be getting started

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i still just have a really, really hard time believing clinton will win the popular vote. i know that's what the mainstream media will try to make you believe, but few show up to her rallies and she couldn't even fill all the seats at her fucking FREE jay-z concert. let that one sink in.

she's the only presidential candidate i've seen, at least since being old enough to vote, that causes just about everybody on both sides to say "fuck no."

i won't even go into what makes her so bad because i don't have the time to dedicate to it, but people are widely aware of her level of corruption. maybe i'm being naive or stubborn, but if she wins the popular vote, i'd be more inclined to believe there's some kind of manipulation going on, be it through poll fuckery, or MSM lies

but with all that being said, of course she'll win. she has everybody who is anybody in her pocket. she has an almost unrivaled amount of power in the world and will do anything, bribe anybody, and blackmail anybody to get to the top. but her bullshit won't stop there, it will just be getting started
Believing that true voter fraud is rampant enough nation-wide to guarantee that Clinton may win based on falsified votes is, for lack of a better word and really trying to not be offensive, ignorant. (Sorry, really not trying to call you ignorant, just can't think of a less aggressive word )

I understand it's easy to draw conclusions that based on your perception there's no way she could legitimately win and that it makes more sense for it to be a conspiracy, but that is very likely not the case. People can point to all these conspiracies that have been proven to be true (NSA, etc) but I highly doubt that is the case here.

Let's look at it in simpler forms: I bet every single member participating in this discussion thinks that over half of the population is stupider than themselves. I bet that the same members believe stupid people vote based on emotion rather than logic. So, is it really that hard to believe, that if you assume over half of the nation is stupider than you and that they vote based on emotion over logic, that Clinton would win over a guy that has made every statement possible to offend every demographic in some way or another that isn't a white dude?

Now, you can point to how it was all taken out of context and what not, but that really doesn't matter - as you know, over half of the population is stupider than you so therefore they'll simply take it at face value and still be offended regardless of whether you think there is merit to be offended or not.

So...conspiracy by the most corrupt politician on the planet or just stupid people voting based on emotion? It's not that inconceivable for her to actually win the popular vote in any case.

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Believing that true voter fraud is rampant enough nation-wide to guarantee that Clinton may win based on falsified votes is, for lack of a better word and really trying to not be offensive, ignorant.

I understand it's easy to draw conclusions that based on your perception there's no way she could legitimately win and that it makes more sense for it to be a conspiracy, but that is very likely not the case. People can point to all these conspiracies that have been proven to be true (NSA, etc) but I highly doubt that is the case here.

Let's look at it in simpler forms: I bet every single member participating in this discussion thinks that over half of the population is stupider than themselves. I bet that the same members believe stupid people vote based on emotion rather than logic. So, is it really that hard to believe, that if you assume over half of the nation is stupider than you and that they vote based on emotion over logic, that Clinton would win over a guy that has made every statement possible to offend every demographic in some way or another that isn't a white dude?

Now, you can point to how it was all taken out of context and what not, but that really doesn't matter - as you know, over half of the population is stupider than you so therefore they'll simply take it at face value and still be offended regardless of whether you think there is merit to be offended or not.

So...conspiracy by the most corrupt politician on the planet or just stupid people voting based on emotion? It's not that inconceivable for her to actually win the popular vote in any case.
that's a valid point, but the only thing i can think of that hillary has going for her that would appeal to the less intelligent voters is the fact that she's a woman, and i just don't see that as being important enough to win the votes of those people. bernie had quite a bit of traction, but after the DWS/DNC scandal, she lost a lot of bernie supporters that she otherwise would have probably won. i know there are a lot of DUMB voters, but again, i just can't bring myself to believe there are THAT many people that are THAT dumb. if anything, i'd imagine a lot of people just won't vote, while trump supporters seem highly motivated to get to the polls. like i said, maybe i'm in denial or just naive, but i have a really, really hard time believing that she'll ultimately get more votes than trump, whether that's due to people staying home or voting against her.

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that's a valid point, but the only thing i can think of that hillary has going for her that would appeal to the less intelligent voters is the fact that she's a woman, and i just don't see that as being important enough to win the votes of those people. bernie had quite a bit of traction, but after the DWS/DNC scandal, she lost a lot of bernie supporters that she otherwise would have probably won. i know there are a lot of DUMB voters, but again, i just can't bring myself to believe there are THAT many people that are THAT dumb. if anything, i'd imagine a lot of people just won't vote, while trump supporters seem highly motivated to get to the polls. like i said, maybe i'm in denial or just naive, but i have a really, really hard time believing that she'll ultimately get more votes than trump, whether that's due to people staying home or voting against her.
Eh, it's just a really complex situation that you can't really simplify down to any one single thing.

She's a woman? Probably not a huge deal except to feminists. But add that she's a woman plus Trump being recorded saying he grabs women by the pussy because he's powerful enough to get away with it? That adds a significant number of non-feminist, female voters.

People like Eagle and Woodman voting for Trump even though they really dislike him in order to hopefully prevent a liberal takeover of the Supreme Court? There's obviously going to be people on the other side of the rope with the same thought process.

People who agree with 1 out of 10 things Trump stands for but agree with 3 out of 10 things Clinton stands for? Likely to be Clinton voters.

There's all kinds of shit.

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By the way, I'll go ahead and put my ban-suit on and be the first (and probably only person here) to admit I voted Clinton.

I was going to vote Gary Johnson like I did in 2012 but I decided to, similarly to some of the others on here, vote strategically. I couldn't contribute to the possibility of the popular vote being so close that Trump drags this shithole of an election on for an additional two months fighting the results. So even though my vote doesn't really count since Washington will go to Clinton regardless, I decided to do what I could to push that popular vote percentage a little bit further in order to do what I could to prevent that possibility from happening.

I don't think Clinton is right for the presidency, but Trump is literally the embodiment of nearly everything I would stand against. The only thing that I may agree with him on is being against further gun restriction (but that's likely not his position anyway since before he became a "Republican" he was not pro-2A).

Similarly, some members on here are voting against Clinton based on the potential of creating a liberal supreme court. I'm voting against Trump based on the potential of a conservative supreme court. Some people on here think that he won't be able to push his agenda but somehow think Clinton will. So if they believe Clinton will interpret away the 2nd Amendment based on saying "I would consider an Australian-style gun ban" and take it as a threat, I similarly take Trump literally saying he would appoint Justices that would "automatically reverse Roe v Wade", among other items, as a threat as well. Again, strategic. (Add to that that I honestly believe the 2A won't ever be "interpreted away" - you may think I'm wrong, but that is my opinion so therefore I'm not that scared by what Clinton [or every other democrat that panders that idea] has said on the matter)

Did I vote for Clinton hoping that she'll do something beneficial? No, but everything Trump stands for, from science to social issues to economics, is more or less the complete opposite of my view. It wasn't because I want to elect the first female president or that I think we need to be taxed 90% of our income or that I think poor people need to sleep on piles of rich people's cash or that we need to be protected from being offended or that we need to rely on baseball bats to defend ourselves instead of guns or any other absurd idea that people like to act like the majority of left-leaning voters actually believe. It's simply because there is no universe, this one or any of the other infinite parallel ones, that I would ever put a check mark next to Trump or any of his ideas or beliefs.

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I early voted last week for Trump. Hillary isn't getting the early voting support from blacks, Hispanics, and millenials like Obama did in 2008 and 2012.
According to the news this morning they were saying black turnout is fairly high, and Hispanic was at record levels. That points to a big Hillary win. I also think the millenials that were Bernie or Bust are grudgingly backing Hillary now.

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Neither Hillary nor Trump get to 270.

Having witnessed themselves stoop to lower levels than they ever possibly thought they could, the House votes in unison to make Gary "What is Allepo?" Johnson the 45th President of the United States of America. Seriously, Hillary and Trump are fucking criminals. Johnson is just a goober.
Ah, Jimmy Carter part 2. In reality we know Richard Nixon part 2 (Clinton) will get the nod.

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i still just have a really, really hard time believing clinton will win the popular vote. i know that's what the mainstream media will try to make you believe, but few show up to her rallies and she couldn't even fill all the seats at her fucking FREE jay-z concert. let that one sink in.
Doesn't need enthusiasm. The Bernie supporters were in a minority but they were rabid. Most Clinton supporters are in the "I don't care for Clinton but Trump is Hiterally Litler." Blue states alone she's got it, and she's going to carry, well, pretty much every demographic that isn't lower class white male, regardless of how enthusiastic they are.
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According to the news this morning they were saying black turnout is fairly high, and Hispanic was at record levels. That points to a big Hillary win. I also think the millenials that were Bernie or Bust are grudgingly backing Hillary
Sounds like some the Clinton News Network would post. The local Augusta chronicle posted very opposite statistics yesterday showing, compared to 2012, early voters among blacks down 16%, Hispanics down 12%, and millenials down 27%. Registered Republicans have turned out in the early vote within 500 votes of the Democrats in this county. The last time that happened was in 1980. Similar results are coming out of Florida and Ohio.

If you drive around the city of Augusta, you see Trump signs everywhere. I can count on one hand the number of Hillary signs. On Saturday, they had a mass of people lined up along broad street downtown holding up Trump signs.

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For this entire election process, everyone throws out numbers pole x has so and so "up by 10 points and pulling away". Wait half a day another news organization has the other person ahead by 6. Who on here actually spends their time to go to all of these differect poles?

Just 3 days ago my news local app had an artical titled "Trump getting major push from the Latino voters going into the final stretch" an hour later and it had Clinton's picture saying she was getting 68% of the Latinos vote. It's all a fucking joke

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