We beat climate change to death in one thread. Here is the bottom line of the climate change argument because there is data supporting both sides of the argument. Alarmists question the funding, credentials or motivation of the scientists that question anthopogenic climate change. They attack the person not so much the data. And even want to use the full force of law to silence any opposing data. Deniers question the alarmist's data and conclusions. They point to failed computer models and manipulated studies and charts. We must have posted a thousand sources in that thread and I don't wish to re-argue the topic.
I'm not looking to debate the data. I will, however, happily reaffirm that there are people like me that are not looking for proactive methods of fighting it based on "feel good" (as I'm fairly certain you put it) policy. I truly believe that it is a huge threat to our existence.
I have no stake in this game, I'm not bringing children into this world (no - not due to my belief in climate change) so I'm not looking to protect it for their sake. My wife and I in our late twenties are in the top 10% income in the United States so I'm not looking to just fuck over high-income earners out of spite.
I'm not just giving it lip service - I risk getting hit by cars three days a week riding my bicycle 21 miles round trip to and from work and use mass transit whenever I can. I voted to increase my own taxes upwards of $400/year in order to further expand mass transit knowing that it's beneficial for most even though my household will be paying the higher end of the taxes, relatively. My wife works in the wind energy industry because of her beliefs in the future of renewables (you could claim this is stake in the game, but my wife would be able to find employment in a different industry literally in a matter of days if she needed to). I'm constantly trying to improve my skillset in the hopes of entering the renewables industry in the future. Hell, if I want to come off as spiteful, you could even say I took advantage of the oil industry in order to increase my engineering skillset - although I got hammered by the oil crash, I had no intention of staying in the industry for more than five years as it was a strategic move to increase my design and engineering knowledge.
I very highly doubt my wife and I are outliers. It's not just a bunch of worriers spouting nonsense with the hope of toppling capitalism and the 1%.
If the majority of astrological scientists said that in 100 years there was a 70% chance of an asteroid destroying a large portion of the African continent but we could develop the technology to reduce that risk down to 10% or less if we increased our tax burden .5% per year (this is probably too high) would you just say "nah, I'd rather wait and see how this plays out" with the potential that by the time we determine the true risk it would be too late to prevent it from happening? You either prevent the disaster from happening or you've developed the technology to counter a future threat if the one that brought on the issue was incorrect.
Scientists aren't infallible. But if you told me to put corporate executives, politicians and scientists on a scale of trustworthiness - the latter would be so far away from the other two you wouldn't even be able to see them on the horizon.
I'm not asking you to fall in line and believe that anthropogenic climate change is real. I understand and respect your viewpoint because you grew up in a time where this whole discussion began and some studies and research were shown to be incorrect. But please understand that there is a large portion of us that deem it a real threat not because it makes us "feel good" to do something or because fucking Al Gore is the the smartest man on the planet or because we want to see capitalism fall due to unreasonable taxation but because we have come to the logical conclusion that the evidence continues to heavily
tip the scale based on an absurd amount of expert's research.
We're not all idiotic liberal drones.
It's 6000 years not 8000. And I'm not one of those. I'm a firm believer in evolution.
lol, I know. I wasn't meaning to draw that conclusion based on your belief opposing mine. Just that that is a shared belief among a lot of people.
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Sorry, I should follow this up by saying that I fully understand why a large portion of the US can't even begin to fathom the consequences of climate change when they've got to worry about how they're going to pay rent or put food on the table for them and their children. It becomes the absolute bottom of their concerns when they're trying to figure out how their bills are going to be paid and I get that someone like me saying "YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THIS FIRST" would come off as the douchiest thing on the planet. But I'm not in that situation so I feel as though perhaps I can actually do something about it while I'm at an advantage. So yeah, it's not going to be scary to the people in the rust belt or Appalachia compared to their current concerns, but it for sure scares me and it scares me that the entire Federal Government now has the ability to set back so much progress in that regard. That's why I'm saying that I will do what I can to fight the Republicans on that matter.