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post #1 of 25 Old June 14th, 2013, 08:49 PM Thread Starter
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M112 supporting mods

So i've decided on the end goal for my stang. I keep coming back to the idea of a supersix in my head, so i'm just setting that as my ultimate goal. Aiming for the M112 since that seems to be the easiest to build/buy a kit for.

Now I have two questions:
First for those of you with M112 experience:
Is it feasible to run with the M112 on a daily driver? I've heard if you aim for around 300rwhp and get a good tune you will be fine, but I just passed 100k on my stang and would love to make it to 200k.

Second, what kind of supporting mods are needed for this setup? I'm a full time student as well, I make just enough to pay bills during the semester so my plan is to buy the basic supporting mods this summer and then get the M112 together next. Current mods planned for this summer are: CAI(done), 2.5" true dual exhaust, tuner, and an 8.8 rear with 4.10s and a Limited slip(likely a Tlok). Will 2.5" be enough after it's FI? Mines an auto, will 4.10s be too steep a gear with the M112 on?

I know what's involved in the actual M112 setup, i'm just looking to see if my current plan is feasible and if there's anything i'm forgetting supporting mod wise.
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Fink DD's his now running almost silly boost on a stock lower end... Lol

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Dont forget to add longtubes and a wideband to your parts list..

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Just don't do it

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I'm going to be a daily m112 driver.(very soon)

I'm at 130,XXX miles and I will be running less boost than Fink, but my car is also fully stock. No after market exhaust or such.

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Fink DD's his now running almost silly boost on a stock lower end... Lol

2.5 is pllleeennntttyyy...

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Dont forget to add longtubes and a wideband to your parts list..
I want the longtubes, but I keep hearing how much of an unholy B#tch they can be to install and I don't want to have to pay a shop that much money to put them in for me. Can the wideband be installed with stock headers or are longtubes really needed for the extra airflow?
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In my book... Lt's are a must.. But you can weld a bung inand use a wideband w/o them.

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Hmmm.... No matter where I look i'm seeing pacesetter and Mac LTs as the only choices. I keep seeing horrible reviews on the pacesetters and MACs website says their headers won't fit on a convertible.
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Theres nothing wrong w the pacesetters

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or Macs either


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or Macs either
Other than the ridiculous price they ask for them

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Do i DD the mustang.. kinda.. what really happens is i get to the end of the sidewalk and either go left to the stang or right to the esteem.. 9/10 times i go left.

And i go WOT at least once a day.

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or Macs either
I'll need someone with a convertible to tell me the Macs fit, ive heard good reviews for them though!

These are the ones I keep seeing from mac:
MAC Ceramic Long Tube Mustang Headers (94-97; 01-04 V6) TF6497 - Free Shipping!

This is what appears to be the same headers on their site, where it says they won't fit verts:
MAC Ford Mustang 4.6L GT 1996-2004 Chrome Plated Long Tube Headers

Anyone have experience with either the MACs or pacesetters on a vert?
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A verts engine bay is no different.. Isnt greenshift a vert? He just did longtubes, hi flow cats, and a catback..

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I don't see why they woudn't be fine, also most people claim fitment issues with the pacesetters, are you running them gaetz? I like the powder coated ones, but the guy that tried them said his powder coating burned off lol.
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A verts engine bay is no different.. Isnt greenshift a vert? He just did longtubes, hi flow cats, and a catback..
Yeah I was thinking the same thing, because my last was a coupe and I don't remember seeing anything different underneath. Just wanted to double check before I go for it.

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Do i DD the mustang.. kinda.. what really happens is i get to the end of the sidewalk and either go left to the stang or right to the esteem.. 9/10 times i go left.

And i go WOT at least once a day.

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I have a 2000 convertible with Mac longtubes... They fit. Very snug though. So get them, you won't regret it!

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verts have some kind of crossbrace under the car that the coupes don't I believe.

I think that is why they say it doesn't fit verts. I think they do actually fit though


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I love my mac LTs. my only complaint is that its made upgrading my clutch a real bitch due to clearance issues. I was told that 4:10s are steep for forced induction but I have a manual so maybe that doesn't apply to you. Im a full time student too and if I wasn't debating a V8 swap Id be done with my m112 build by now and I just started last year so its possible, itll just take time

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A verts engine bay is no different.. Isnt greenshift a vert? He just did longtubes, hi flow cats, and a catback..
Yep I got a Vert. Just had Pacesetters installed. Took the shop about 4 hours to install them, they had to lift the engine. They didnt realize it was going to take so long so they quoted me $900 for the entirety of everything, thats including two $180 magnaflow cats I "had" to buy because pypes are illegal apparently here. So labor of installing the ENTIRE exhaust (LT's, cats, prochamber, flowmaster catback + modifications to some of the stuff to make it all fit a V6 cost $500 which TBH doesnt seem too bad. They told me it was a nightmare to install it all but they quoted me $900 for everything and that they would honor that price even though it took way longer than expected.

This was at Midas, they impressed me. They seem to have done a good job with it as well. It its a tight fit in spots because it is meant for a GT so it knocks a tiny bit on bigger bumps but I can live with that.
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I don't know about the sixxers but in the vert GT's, the motor mounts make the engine sit higher in the bay. If that's the case with the sixxers then I can see why MAC wouldn't recommend them. Probably pretty snug in there.
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Hmmm, I have never heard of this.. Why/how?

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