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post #1 of 25 Old August 6th, 2013, 10:16 AM Thread Starter
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Split port swap Fuel rail

Looks like I'll be sticking with the V6 just a bit longer, so I want to split port swap it for the time being, I get the idea on it and the majority of the parts but from the research I have done I'm not finding a definitive awnser for the fuel rail since the split port mustangs are returnless style. I have seen that an E-150/F-150 rail would work but I would have to run an intake spacer which i dont want to do that. does anyone have any pics of a returnless fuel rail modifed to use with the swap? Or know a better stock like rail.

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When I did this swap into my '94 Tbird back in 2002, I used a E-150 rail without an intake spacer. The driverside main "log" on the intake manifold had to be trimmed and TIG'd to clear the FPR, the passenger side main "log" received a little clearancing for the feed/return ports, and I had to make a couple of brackets to match up to the rails holddowns. I only have a few pictures from that swap.




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What is the reasoning for not wanting to use an intake spacer? Lol just use the damn spacer and then no hacking the E rail.. Poof.. Done...

I am in need of a single port intake btw

And Rods rwd heads... Just have to buckle down and make the drive..

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What is the reasoning for not wanting to use an intake spacer? Lol just use the damn spacer and then no hacking the E rail.. Poof.. Done...

I am in need of a single port intake btw

And Rods rwd heads... Just have to buckle down and make the drive..
In my case, hood clearance. I don't know that a spacer existed back then anyway.

I have a 89-98 3.8L NA upper intake manifold here, if that's what you need.

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Sorry Rod, my question was aimed at the OP.. I know those tbird hoods ride close anyway... I just need a lower n/a intake.. Have a little project I am wanting to do on one..

I also need to find someone within driving distance that is set up for heli-arc that'll take care of me on some alum welding I can't do myself.. My lil' ol MIG isnt up to the task...

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I could go with a spacer but with the intake setup, would it clear the strut bar? Also got a link to where I can get the spacer? Also what year E-150 should I look for? When I was at the yard yesterday the had at least a dozen E-150s sitting out there

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Ive seen a strut bar on a windstar swapped car so probably.. Not sure about the year of the E but I would stick to when they made the split port setup..99 or newer..

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IIRC, the Splitport 4.2L arrived in '97 in the E-150's.

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I plan on going tomorrow and start gathering stuff up, hopefully they get a couple more New Edges in, when I went monday they only had 1 NE and it was an 02' as for the E-150 i dont remember what years they ranged.

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Ive seen a strut bar on a windstar swapped car so probably....
barely clears. check the sig pic.


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I used the same fuel rail from the windstar van I took the intake from. But you will need to extend your fuel lines to reach the drivers side. You will have hood clearance problems if you use the intake spacer.

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I'd prefer not having to deal with hood clearance issues in all honestly, with the trans going out funds are gonna be tight enough as it is without having to buy a new hood

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i reused my fuel rail. just had to mod it a little.
the how to i based it off of

http://www.tccoa.com/articles/mn12ho...fuel-rail.html



the two short segments of fuel line on the pass side is just an isolator in the clamps i made up to hold it in place.

the rear of the engine was a little more involved


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Interesting, i been hunting for ages trying to find pics of a modified rail, would any autoparts store carry the proper hosing for the job? and also what size line did you use?

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i used what the how to specified. i had to go to a local hydraulic shop for the hose.
there may be other places...autozone didnt have it though.
the how to said you didnt need the clamps but i used them any ways.


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Thats bad news then, theres no actual hydraulic stores around here, o'reilly autoparts here messes with hydraulic lines. I got one more question, in the pic where you can see the barbs for the double line is that connected right there? or is it just the clamps holding the out line up against it?

I think i see what you did there, Removed the out line from the single port rail, ran a new line joining the fronts of the pass/driver sides of the split port rail setup together, used the single port FPR and tied it into the 2 lines on the pass side, and connected the single line on the FPR to the driver side rail.

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the rail is all from the single port. i used a drummel to cut the return bracket to relocate it backwards.

this pic should help you see what i did
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Gotcha, I think theres a tad bit of confusion. I'm just doing the split port intakes and not tossing on the windstar, My single port rail looks different, Its got 2 injectors side by side on the pass side of it, where yours are spaced out.

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i think this still applies.
the windstar was an after thought. this should work for just the split port swap as well.


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I'm thinking so, at least in my mind it makes sense anyways.

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