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post #1 of 16 Old March 6th, 2016, 12:50 PM Thread Starter
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New Edge 3.8 vs. Sn95 3.8

Could you guys help provide some pros and cons of these vehicles? Like durability, gas mileage, performance, upgradeability, issues, even opinions. I can't decide between the two.
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What is your budget? If you can swing it, I would go for a GT. I've seen high mileage GT's for 3k-4k around me. The 4.6l in the GT is very reliable even at higher mileage, the gas mileage is about the same as the 3.8, more aftermarket support, better base for modding...etc Alot of v-6 guys end up upgrading after a little while anyway and they will tell you how they regret dumping money into the V6.

If you are set on the sixer, there isn't a whole lot different between the two v6's besides appearance and a slightly less anemic engine due to the split port induction which is a difference from 145hp to around 190hp according to wikipedia.

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First gen sn95 3.8 are junk. New edge split port are better, but not much.

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Well, the reason I'm going for the six is because of better gas mileage, and it'll be my first car.
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I got a v6 for my first car and from a person that's experienced it, the gas mileage is very similar to both the v6 and v8. I will say for a first car a v8 could be a bad idea for some people. I'm not saying you couldn't handle it but I'm just saying consider it in your decision.

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I got a v6 for my first car and from a person that's experienced it, the gas mileage is very similar to both the v6 and v8. I will say for a first car a v8 could be a bad idea for some people. I'm not saying you couldn't handle it but I'm just saying consider it in your decision.
Yeah. My parents are extra careful from their own car crash experiences. I don't think I'll convince them otherwise, out of respect. There are quite a few new edge 3.8 and 3.9s for sale where I live, so I'll stick to that.
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You can get mid 20's for gas mileage out of these cars. Between the two I would say go with a 99-04 "New Edge". In my opinion they look better than the previous "round body" cars of 94-98. The 3.8 also made quite a bit more power and is better suited to getting it going. On paper they were rated at 190/193 horse and 225 foot pounds. The 3.9 only found in 2004's didn't do anything for performance.

Durability? Mine is a 2002, which I've owned since 2004 (junior year of HS). Prior to me purchasing it, it was a Hertz rental car. All in all I say it's been fairly faithful. I had two issues - first was the automatic trans becoming flakey, but looking back it really only needed an adjustment to the linkage. Gave me an excuse to do a manual conversion though . Second was the rear ate two sets of spider gears but that was my fault completely because of the way 18 years old influenced by Fast 'n Furious me drove it. So like I said it's been pretty damn durable for the way it's been treated. It's never left me stranded - even last year when the differential let go (my fault again not Ford's) I was still able to make it home.

Upgrades? The aftermarket has gotten better over the years. For you just starting I'd say an intake, catback, decent tune and maybe some gears (gears will affect MPG) will set you on the path and make it peppier to drive. Later on if you want to go all out motor wise, Super Six Motorsports and Tom Morana Racing both make a ton of good stuff to really push the 3.8 (or 4.2 swap/build if you go that route) to the limit. Turbo and supercharger kits are also available. Out of the factory they handle pretty good - better sway bars, lowering springs, and caster/camber plates can really help it become a corner carver. Most (not all) suspension parts and every body modification are cross usable on your sixxer. A bumper off a Cobra or the trunk off a Saleen will bolt right with no fuss. If you have a buddy with a GT you can steal his rear sway bar and it will bolt right up. If you get real fancy the IRS out of a Cobra can bolt right up as well.


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You can get mid 20's out of these cars.
gas mileage? or 1/4 mile times?

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Lol. I think it can do 0-60 in something like 7.5 which isn't absolutely terrible and I'm not sure about the 1/4 mile time, but it probably isn't amazing. I just want something that looks good and has some pep in it's step.
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Lol. I think it can do 0-60 in something like 7.5 which isn't absolutely terrible and I'm not sure about the 1/4 mile time, but it probably isn't amazing. I just want something that looks good and has some pep in it's step.
They are "peppy" to a degree but can be made to be quicker. Just depends how much you're willing to invest in it. For me it's all sentimental now - I can't sell a car I've owned for 12 years, that was the first one I've ever owned, now that has never let me down (excpet for several stoplight drags )


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Coming from a person that has also owned one for a while, my 04 V6 has put any of the previous years in there place. I have even put a few 98 and older GTs behind me before. Gear swap and a tune helped though. I have thought about selling it over and over again but now that I have had it for 7 years I just can't. Lol

I doubt to many other people have put as many track miles as me on a V6 Mustang (around 800) and its still a been good to me. With a few mods its galloped along side BMWs, Nissan 350s and 370s, and even less experienced Corvette drivers on the road course. They can be fun cars to drive.

A few electronic issues but the car is at 112k miles. Still I always wish I had the V8 model. Honestly comparing yester years V8 to what is out now, the GT is low horsepower. If you can convince your parents for the V8 thats what I would go with. Otherwise if you get stuck with the V6, drive it for a year or 2, don't put any money into it, and get the car you want.
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lose of the damn electronic odometer, fuel pump quiting after 12 years, and my transmission breaking on me where my only problems......I felt sorry for the car cause I drove it like I stole it when I was hanging with the car club. wait I had to so I could keep up with them. damn mach1s, shelbys, an olds gnx and classic clones.


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this seemed like the right thread for this, does anyone know if the 01+ 3.8 bolts up properly in a 96? or can someone point me in the right direction?

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01+ has the IMRCs I don't think it hooks up completely unless you delete the butterflies from the lower intake.

otherwise you just have to be sure to have the fuel rails and everything.


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