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135 will be a kicker for the turbo coyotes, but that still gives a whole lot more leeway.


For the record, I think it's a terrible idea to change that rule.
 

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Now the stock zr1s and slightly modded gt500s don't have to worry. Pretty much all the new "fast" cars will be good. Besides a bugatti on a good day :lol

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135 will be a kicker for the turbo coyotes, but that still gives a whole lot more leeway.


For the record, I think it's a terrible idea to change that rule.
It is and it isn't. New cars that are able to run that fast without modding are very very stable in higher speeds.

Still doesn't help if you smack a wall... I see your point.

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I don't care how stable that car is. What happens when the faster car that its next to, gets loose, comes across the track, and drives into the door of the 2011 Mustang at 130MPH? Those door bars sure would have been nice.
 

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I agree on this being a stupid idea. I'm currently building my vert and I know even if I didn't need it I would still put in a 6 point before I got to any real speeds


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Ummm, duh....? Who wouldn't put a roll cage in a vert?


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Oh to be honest I didn't read the original post. I thought this had to do with verts for some reason. Either way even if my car wasn't a vert I would still at least have a bar at those speeds


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They can't be modified so no pulley upgrades or blowers or anything like that.
 

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I definitley wouldnt feel safe.
 

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It's easy to see the point being made, especially concerning how cars are designed nowadays. There is revenue that they are surely missing out on as track owners by guys that would get shutdown. Alot of the people that buy fast cars WANT to race them occasionally. I truly understand not wanting to cage a DD, especially something that you put your kids in. You don't want them bouncing off the bars in the event of an accident on the street. But that being said, automakers didn't design their cars to do 130 mph crashes either, or at least I don't assume they did. Just because your vehicle can do a certain speed/et from the factory, doesn't mean it's safe to that speed. Racing on a Private track is a privilege, not a right. Even though it's safer to do it there than on the streets, I still believe that you should follow the rules that made it safer to begin with. I understand that lowering the ET was a solution to an issue, but it doesn't mean they had to drop it all the way down to 10.00. Factory cars may certainly have more reinforcements in them, but it still is far from a cage.
 

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Rght on, definatley helps the guys that can afford to race to new power plants. But still the same time for us older guy?
 

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It's easy to see the point being made, especially concerning how cars are designed nowadays. There is revenue that they are surely missing out on as track owners by guys that would get shutdown. Alot of the people that buy fast cars WANT to race them occasionally. I truly understand not wanting to cage a DD, especially something that you put your kids in. You don't want them bouncing off the bars in the event of an accident on the street. But that being said, automakers didn't design their cars to do 130 mph crashes either, or at least I don't assume they did. Just because your vehicle can do a certain speed/et from the factory, doesn't mean it's safe to that speed. Racing on a Private track is a privilege, not a right. Even though it's safer to do it there than on the streets, I still believe that you should follow the rules that made it safer to begin with. I understand that lowering the ET was a solution to an issue, but it doesn't mean they had to drop it all the way down to 10.00. Factory cars may certainly have more reinforcements in them, but it still is far from a cage.

I agree. I understand why it was done, but I still don't really agree with it. "Unaltered" may be the great equalizer once it's defined though. This rule may not apply to many.
 

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I don't care how stable that car is. What happens when the faster car that its next to, gets loose, comes across the track, and drives into the door of the 2011 Mustang at 130MPH? Those door bars sure would have been nice.

ok so lets say this is a viable situation for a momement the other car isnt gonna be doing 130 by the 60 ft when you are doing 25 mph. so anyways if the other car loses it at 130 at the eighth mile and your doing 60mph closing speed is 70 so thats like losing control on the thruway. if he lost it at top end at 130 your doing 100 and thats only a 30 mph crash

just my 2 cents anyways

p.s. great reason to run bracket racing cause if the other car runs 130 in the eight you would never seem him till the finish line anyways
 

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Lol....I'm sorry man, but that's laughable to me. I have a PERFECT example of this exact scenario, and that's why I mentioned it. There used to be a video of it, but its been taken down I guess, because the wreck happened several years ago.

Two of my good friends, both in Mustangs were in Tulsa racing next to each other. One was a 9.30 car, and one was a 10.0-10.10 car. The 9.30 car was in the right lane and at about the 1000' mark when it broke loose and started fishtailing. The slower car was obviously going well over 100 MPH at this point with no chance of stopping. The faster car took a hard left and drive right into the door of slower car, which at that point turned both cars straight into the wall, and one car ended up upside down, and the other on its side.

You have to remember there's still a lot of energy that has to go somewhere after this "30 MPH" collision. That's too fast for no cage IMO, but I don't make the rules. I'd never go 130 without one. Just me. I've got kids at home to come home to, and its not worth it.
 

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You have to remember there's still a lot of energy that has to go somewhere after this "30 MPH" collision. That's too fast for no cage IMO, but I don't make the rules. I'd never go 130 without one. Just me. I've got kids at home to come home to, and its not worth it.
Exactly! The other dude's example isn't really an example or anything at all. That 30 mph hit is only legit if the one car is getting rearended by the other and not in the door. And if you think EVERYONE that's already flying over a hundred miles an hour and gets hit are going to keep it out of the wall or otherwise, you are sadly mistaken. Watch some vids on youtube. Research can be so easy sometimes....
 

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nhra's stance on this has come out as very clear as of the end of last week.

"un-altered" means just that, bone stock down to the air in the tires, no mods what-so-ever, period.
 
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