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iknow everyone hates on shortys but these look different than pypes or bbk one plus ijust purchased a pacesetter off road h pipe for shortys (getting xpipe atachment soon) , site says Max Dyno gains of 10.4 HP & 15.67 LB.FT. torque only thing idont like is the price.
anyone ever had these on they're 3 valve did you gain much hp? or just a waste like the other shortys thanks.
 

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They’re a waste it’s been proven. All shorties are a waste on these cars. The stock manifolds flow pretty well. Go with long tubes.


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