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Came across a deal I couldn't pass up.

Fun little car for sure. Next stop is hard pipes and an ATP turbo upgrade.
 

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Don't mind the caliper covers as they are getting tossed.
 

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Another One...Another ONE! ONE OF US! ONE OF US!

Can you tell I'm excited?

The turbo upgrade is a wonderful idea, also supersixmotorsports sells some upgraded components for the internals, etc of the engine, as does Livernoise.

Running 93 or an E-blend fuel?

As for the caliper covers, I bet you could sell them and make a bit of $$.
 

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Running the 93 tune. Also about to test out the livernois 4+ tune.

I plan to see what I can get for them.

I also run a jlt oil separator. Trying to source a stock airbox and downpipes currently as I always keep the stock parts when I mod a car but they didnt come with this one.

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Was so hard finding a black sho, with tuxedo interior, non-sunroof, 401a package without PP. Was such a pain in the ass. Had to drive 700 miles to finally get ahold of one.

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I hate canned tunes. I refuse to run meth on a canned tune or e85 for that matter. With the new FP livernois brought out at SEMA there is a chance we can truly see the potential of this engine soon.
 

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Running the 93 tune. Also about to test out the livernois 4+ tune.

I plan to see what I can get for them.

I also run a jlt oil separator. Trying to source a stock airbox and downpipes currently as I always keep the stock parts when I mod a car but they didnt come with this one.

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Was so hard finding a black sho, with tuxedo interior, non-sunroof, 401a package without PP. Was such a pain in the ass. Had to drive 700 miles to finally get ahold of one.

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I hate canned tunes. I refuse to run meth on a canned tune or e85 for that matter. With the new FP livernois brought out at SEMA there is a chance we can truly see the potential of this engine soon.
It may be a pain to find the stock parts, seems like most people who are modding SHOs keep the stock parts as well. I have my stock airbox, but am keeping it, and will keep my stock downpipes as well. I also kept my stock mufflers/resonator when I welded in replacement parts.

LME tunes are good I heard, but I really despise how they went away from SCT. I like the unleased tunes a bit more because you can datalog. I run a tune form a forum member on one of the ecoboost forums, who tunes on the side, and does dataloging revisions from the start. I am running an E20 blend with him and it is amazing. The HPFP will be a great option, but also pricey, and still will need a few other things to be able to run full E85 all the time, I believe.

The biggest issue with your option list, is the moonroof-delete. I phrase it that way since almost all the SHOs I have ever seen have one. I ordered my SHO new to my build specifications because of the options I wanted.

How do you like the JLT? the can is smaller than the other options (UPR and RX) and no clean side seperator, but also much cheaper. Not sure which to go with, but will be getting a catch can soon. I just installed my 170 Reische Thermostat recently, and am installing my catless downpipes next week, as well as finishing my A/F gauge install. I also am installing my hotpipes soon.
 

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It may be a pain to find the stock parts, seems like most people who are modding SHOs keep the stock parts as well. I have my stock airbox, but am keeping it, and will keep my stock downpipes as well. I also kept my stock mufflers/resonator when I welded in replacement parts.

LME tunes are good I heard, but I really despise how they went away from SCT. I like the unleased tunes a bit more because you can datalog. I run a tune form a forum member on one of the ecoboost forums, who tunes on the side, and does dataloging revisions from the start. I am running an E20 blend with him and it is amazing. The HPFP will be a great option, but also pricey, and still will need a few other things to be able to run full E85 all the time, I believe.

The biggest issue with your option list, is the moonroof-delete. I phrase it that way since almost all the SHOs I have ever seen have one. I ordered my SHO new to my build specifications because of the options I wanted.

How do you like the JLT? the can is smaller than the other options (UPR and RX) and no clean side seperator, but also much cheaper. Not sure which to go with, but will be getting a catch can soon. I just installed my 170 Reische Thermostat recently, and am installing my catless downpipes next week, as well as finishing my A/F gauge install. I also am installing my hotpipes soon.
The reason LMS went away from SCT is because when SCT bought bullydog the EPA laid the smack down due to the diesel owners rolling smoke. SCT instead of just taking the hit gave up their tuners to lower their fines. The tuners then got SLAMMED by the EPA for turning off 02 sensors and etc. Thus tuners now wont turn off the downstreams unless you can find a way for them to risk the $15K fine to do it for you. Hypertech who make the mycal have a loophole that the EPA cant get through so they are left alone. Thats why people who tune with hypertech can maintain business as usual. I have close friends who are SCT tuners and one was actually hit with the EPA fine and it almost killed his business.

I am bullheaded so I searched for a while. Almost ordered a 2016 due to it. I have a SCT xcal4 currently since thats what Unleashed uses but am going to give LMS a try. The JLT is fine and is an easy clean install. I have zero issues with it. I dont see a reason to have it handle the clean side at this time as its a mere bolton car.
 

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The reason LMS went away from SCT is because when SCT bought bullydog the EPA laid the smack down due to the diesel owners rolling smoke. SCT instead of just taking the hit gave up their tuners to lower their fines. The tuners then got SLAMMED by the EPA for turning off 02 sensors and etc. Thus tuners now wont turn off the downstreams unless you can find a way for them to risk the $15K fine to do it for you. Hypertech who make the mycal have a loophole that the EPA cant get through so they are left alone. Thats why people who tune with hypertech can maintain business as usual. I have close friends who are SCT tuners and one was actually hit with the EPA fine and it almost killed his business.

I am bullheaded so I searched for a while. Almost ordered a 2016 due to it. I have a SCT xcal4 currently since thats what Unleashed uses but am going to give LMS a try. The JLT is fine and is an easy clean install. I have zero issues with it. I dont see a reason to have it handle the clean side at this time as its a mere bolton car.
I had no idea... but thats odd, because my BAMA tuned mustang has downstream O2s off, and has for a while, no issues, though I haven't gotten a tune update in forever since its been sitting, and I'll get it dyno tunes when I finally engine swap.

My tuner for the SHO had no issues sending me a tune for the catless DPs either, with downstream O2 off. I think unleashed is the same way.

Thanks for the info on the JLT, may be worth picking one up, its on the backburner right now, but once I see the inside of the charge piping I'll finalize my decision.
 

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I had no idea... but thats odd, because my BAMA tuned mustang has downstream O2s off, and has for a while, no issues, though I haven't gotten a tune update in forever since its been sitting, and I'll get it dyno tunes when I finally engine swap.

My tuner for the SHO had no issues sending me a tune for the catless DPs either, with downstream O2 off. I think unleashed is the same way.

Thanks for the info on the JLT, may be worth picking one up, its on the backburner right now, but once I see the inside of the charge piping I'll finalize my decision.
Trust me Torrie (Unleashed) wont do it. I bought the tuner with telling him what I wanted. He was cool with it. Then when the tune came to me the rear 02 were on. He refuses to turn the downstream 02's off and only cites things said by the EPA. Thus why I am looking to move away from him and his tunes as he has been a real jackass about it all. Even after I asked for an off-road for track use only tune he said nope.

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I have had this car for like 2 or 3 months now but just now got around to posting. I have looked into pretty much all the tuners. Unleashed, BCB, ISS, LMS and some forum tuners as well and its been a **** show thus far. Has cost me a fair good bit of money as well to learn that the sho community is full of alot of asshats.
 

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Trust me Torrie (Unleashed) wont do it. I bought the tuner with telling him what I wanted. He was cool with it. Then when the tune came to me the rear 02 were on. He refuses to turn the downstream 02's off and only cites things said by the EPA. Thus why I am looking to move away from him and his tunes as he has been a real jackass about it all. Even after I asked for an off-road for track use only tune he said nope.

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I have had this car for like 2 or 3 months now but just now got around to posting. I have looked into pretty much all the tuners. Unleashed, BCB, ISS, LMS and some forum tuners as well and its been a **** show thus far. Has cost me a fair good bit of money as well to learn that the sho community is full of alot of asshats.
Well, that is definitely disappointing. IDK who all you have talked to forum wise, but if you want to PM me, I can point you to the guy that does my tunes. He had no issues with sending a tune for catless pipes.

I don't see how any tuner could get in trouble at this point, with the SCT disclaimer everytime you load a tune, that is not legal for street use, etc. etc.

I know I have seen good results on tunes from the guy that does my tunes, as well as Unleashed, LME, and BCB. But as always things change/your experience may vary.
 

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The mycal is already on the way so I am gonna give LMS a shot at it and see how I like them.
 

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The mycal is already on the way so I am gonna give LMS a shot at it and see how I like them.
Sounds like a plan, let me know how you like it/if you change your mind. I'm also on Ecoboost Performance Forum

If for whatever reason you need/want another option, just let me know. I got my first few revisions before paying to make sure he was doing what I wanted, and he seems to do that with everyone. After I knew I was satisfied, I payed his price, and have been getting revisions since.
 

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Wait till you get one it in the snow. I have the SEL with leather, nav and AWD. Theres something about throwing around a large AWD car in the snow that just feels right.
 

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I rarely see any SHO's. I've only seen the newer ones a few times. Good to see some fellow owners, even though yours is more than 2 decades newer haha.
 

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Car is definitely a ton of fun. Sure makes alot of sports cars butthurt
 

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Car is definitely a ton of fun. Sure makes alot of sports cars butthurt
You got that right. Just took mine on a trip to my parents 1k miles one way, lots of hurt feelings from people that don't know how to drive etc. And 22 mpg @ 80 mph and with E20 in the tank.
 

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I bought another tuner lol. MyCal came in the other day but haven't had a chance to play with it. Probably contact AJP soon to test his tunes out as well
 
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