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I am a realist here, you can boost your car for less than 2g's but it would be months of piecing together parts on craigslist, FB, and forums shopping for deals.
If you set a budget of $2500, you can probably make a deal with a guy for a procharger, or vortech kit. Possibly with injectors to bolt in. And pick up a 340 pump, and a maf.
I've seen guys piece kits together for $1600 but they spent months doing it.
Realistically you will need
Blower head unit
Intercooler (optional
Piping
Belt
Maf, either blow thru or draw thru
A bypass valve(draw thru) or a BOV (blow thru)
Injectors 39#'s or more
Fuel pump 300-340 pump.
Or a smaller focus pump with a boost a pump.
Then you need a programmer act or diablosport (whichever type the tuners in your area use).
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Several years ago there was a popular thread on a $2,000 supercharger. I think Shaun was the author. The forum was very active back then and a lot of people started doing it. Like Snorky said it takes months of hunting. Getting a piece here and there. Some gave up. Some ran out of money before getting it together and sold what they had bought. But some who were dedicated enough to stick with it made it work. But the cost is usually closer to $2,500.
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think about it this way.
Pump (wouldn't buy used) = ~180 with tax
Injectors = 75 for 39s is probably possible
Charger, bracket, belt, tubing = 1200 maybe if your lucky
MAF = 150 for a 05+ slot style
Tuner = 400 new might find one unlocked used for ~150
Tune = 350 email (400+ for a dyno tune)
I think it is possible but a more likely total cost would be around 3k with new parts
I think I ended up just under 3400 with everything but I have an intercooled setup which adds a bit of cost.
Pump (wouldn't buy used) = ~180 with tax
Injectors = 75 for 39s is probably possible
Charger, bracket, belt, tubing = 1200 maybe if your lucky
MAF = 150 for a 05+ slot style
Tuner = 400 new might find one unlocked used for ~150
Tune = 350 email (400+ for a dyno tune)
I think it is possible but a more likely total cost would be around 3k with new parts
I think I ended up just under 3400 with everything but I have an intercooled setup which adds a bit of cost.
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Used centri like a Vortech or Procharger will be your best bet. I have a cobra dual pump fuel hat assembly for sale if you're interested.
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Check this Facebook group. I've seen complete units (rarely) under $2k, so you might get lucky. Usually if they are under $2k they are missing pieces, but sometimes only missing a couple. I have seen completed kits with head units that need rebuild for $1500.
You could find a mostly complete system for $2k-ish and find the rest of the pieces pretty quickly on there too. I have probably seen every part available individually on there.
You could find a mostly complete system for $2k-ish and find the rest of the pieces pretty quickly on there too. I have probably seen every part available individually on there.
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My procharger D1 kit was $2700 used and I still needed injectors, tune, misc stuff for the supercharger. I still spent almost $4k after it was all said and done. I could have done it for a bit cheaper but I didn't cheap out on everything. Vortech kits seem to be around $2000 used but again you will need some other stuff.
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I sold my complete blow thru p1sc setup with injectors and a pump (minus maf) for $2750. Could have gotten more bu thd guy was nice and respectful so I made a good deal for him. When I bought the kit for $2000 it was missing items, belt, couplings, clamps, bolts, etc. Bypass..
On3 turno kits are appealing in price but you still need $700+ in k member, A arms and coil overs to fit the setup. That's without ironing out the problems.
On3 turno kits are appealing in price but you still need $700+ in k member, A arms and coil overs to fit the setup. That's without ironing out the problems.
can I get a link to the facebook I really don't know what I'm doing I need to find somewhere with a complete checklist of parts
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I can spend close to 3k I just don't want to cause school is way too expensive. Do you have any links to all the parts I would need (bolts and all) and maybe an install video because Ive never attempted anything like this
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I just took a look at the on3 turbo kit, what would you recommend for me to get in the package? I have a stock motor with basic bolt ons with only 30k miles on it. I was looking into buying new A-arms and I have some coilovers already installed. Realistically I wouldn't want to spend anything over 2700 if possible. Also thanks for all the help so far!
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Sorry, I'm not too experienced in modding nor do I know much about parts but I'm assuming its a fuel pump basically?
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Go to Vortechs site and download the install manual. It will list all the parts. You don't need to follow it exactly as far as the fuel system is concerned or air inlet. Can get whatever injectors and fuel pump(s) you want a make or buy a power pipe. Also if you want an intercooler it will not be listed in their parts list. You can get a pipe kit from cxracing and an intercooler from them or look for a used Treadstone or Procharger intercooler.
Yes, a cobra fuel hat assembly is the hat and two fuel pumps that came in a 03/04 cobra. If you have a GT then you only have one fuel pump. Depending on how much power you want to make and if you want something that is drop in or you want to modify will dictate which fuel pump setup you go with. A single svt focus pump will handle up to around 370rwhp and is direct drop in. Some have made into the 400's on the pump. Every car is different. If you run out of fuel with it you'd need to add a boost a pump or a larger fuel pump. The 340lph pump will require slight modification to work and I believe they're good to 450-500rwhp. The 03/04 cobra fuel hat assembly comes with two pumps so you'd be good to whatever power you can throw at it on the stock motor. You need to break out some of the plastic in your tank that goes around your stock fuel pump assembly in order to fit the two pumps. Other than that it's direct drop in.
Yes, a cobra fuel hat assembly is the hat and two fuel pumps that came in a 03/04 cobra. If you have a GT then you only have one fuel pump. Depending on how much power you want to make and if you want something that is drop in or you want to modify will dictate which fuel pump setup you go with. A single svt focus pump will handle up to around 370rwhp and is direct drop in. Some have made into the 400's on the pump. Every car is different. If you run out of fuel with it you'd need to add a boost a pump or a larger fuel pump. The 340lph pump will require slight modification to work and I believe they're good to 450-500rwhp. The 03/04 cobra fuel hat assembly comes with two pumps so you'd be good to whatever power you can throw at it on the stock motor. You need to break out some of the plastic in your tank that goes around your stock fuel pump assembly in order to fit the two pumps. Other than that it's direct drop in.
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FYI...I have the Walbro TU229hp-2 drop in fuel pump assembly (seen it advertised as a 255lph and 290lph...not sure which one it is but I'm tuned on 40psi of fuel pressure) with a Vortech boost a pump. I'm at 70% DC at 440whp. Just for your reference on the fuel setup.
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I don't know of a complete unit for sale right now. A lot of the time if there are parts missing the seller will list them, but go to Vortech's website like blonwstang said and you can get a complete list from them.
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OP.
I think a logical budget cap is going to be closer to 3k but if you get lucky you could possibly end up under that. The more time passed the better your chances get of course.
You will not need any kind of installation video, the members on this forum can help you all the way through the install and the instructions on Vortechs website are free and fairly well written/illustrated.
I think a logical budget cap is going to be closer to 3k but if you get lucky you could possibly end up under that. The more time passed the better your chances get of course.
You will not need any kind of installation video, the members on this forum can help you all the way through the install and the instructions on Vortechs website are free and fairly well written/illustrated.
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Alright, so for the on3 turno kit. You would opt for the slot style mag with the maf flange pre welded on. As far as turbo. I personally went with the on3 67bb with the billet wheel originally. I loved the thing. Although the internet jockies recommend replacing the blow off valve and wastegate from on3 stuff to tial or turbosmart units. (I did with tial, I have also seen people out there run the on3 stuff without issues)
The items I would recommend changing are the V band clamps (I will post a link to the V band clamps shortly)
The suspension required would either be UPR tubular K member and A arms. Or the ones from on3... which I believe are UPR anyway.
Aside from that. You will need injectors and a pump. I would either do a drop in focus pump and a boost a pump. Or a 340 pump with the fuel basket chopped up a little. (I think I still have my modified stock basket laying around somewhere)
I provided the info, but I would strongly suggest if you are new to wrenching that you go with a supercharger over a turbo.
The turbo will make significantly more power per pound of boost, but it is significantly more involved in the install and ironing the bugs out of it. A supercharger is more of a bolt it on, tune it and go operation. The kinks with the blower come in the form of belt alignment, and just make sure your cold side pipes/silicon couplers are T bolted together well. You have one vacuum line to your blow off valve/bypass and that's it. Simple.
Op. on3 gen1 kits is a decent entree level ki and can be found pretty cheap. The down side is
they are only designed to be used with a manual transmission. The other thing is there is a little more piping. The kmember and coilover should not be a negative when choosing blower or turbo setup. You will be glad you did when you have to work on car.
My first kit was an on3 gen1 kit that was under 2k
they are only designed to be used with a manual transmission. The other thing is there is a little more piping. The kmember and coilover should not be a negative when choosing blower or turbo setup. You will be glad you did when you have to work on car.
My first kit was an on3 gen1 kit that was under 2k
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