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He of Long Wind
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Today was a glorious day! Despite much libtard ballyhoo about Trump’s alleged quid-pro-quo with Zelensky, it looks like we’ve been served another 100% all-American nothing-burger. The word-by-word legal interpretation of the call transcript is admittedly debatable, but it’s obviously a long LONG way from official misconduct.

I love it! I love it! I love it!

Nancy Pelosi has virtually guaranteed Trump’s re-election with her call for an impeachment inquiry today. The American public may have an appetite for bare-knuckle political sensationalism; who doesn't like to see a good fight? Still, we all know bullshit when we smell it and most of us respect the idea of fair play. So any fair-minded observer can see this is just another round of Dem-inflamed nothingness – theatrics of political showmanship for headlines and TV-time. Frankly, I don't think the American public is that stupid. It's a show. We get it. Dems hate Trump more than they love their country, and they'll say or do anything to get him out of office (same goes the the liberal media).

We all see it; it's no secret. If President Trump uses an aerosol can in the manner not described on the label, some White House janitor will snitch him out to CNN, and Wolf Blitzer will try to spin it into political hay (remember the two-scoops of ice cream story?). We all get it. Dems want him to crash and burn, even if that harms our country in the process. We would be morons not to acknowledge the anti-American circus the Dems have been conducting. The Ukraine story is just the next act in the same old pathetic show: "We hate Trump. He's mean. Waaahhh! Waaaahhh!"

Not saying Trump is an angel. In fact, I think he’s a jerk. But, Americans can spot when someone is being “railroaded” by partisan bullshit – and we don’t like that. If you want to beat someone, then beat them fair and square. Nobody recognizes a victory from a sucker-punch. This is just another low blow and everyone can see it. I hope Nancy digs in deep and really goes for it. She has obviously forgotten how stupid she looked after the Russia hoax. So, why not try again with a new bullshit narrative?

I love it! I love it! I love it!

I say, “Go for it Dems!!! Get in there!!! Ruin your own election chances with more insipid yammer about things that scarcely exist. Push all those sensible Independents more to the Right. I’m sure President Trump won’t mind.”

What a glorious day indeed!!!
 

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Yep today of all days positive and negative this day and these particular events just locked him in for 2020. I don't gamble but I'm willing to put up 5cents on it and we all report back here after the election to see him win by the landslide. ;-) The time frame will be here before we know it.
 

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Yep today of all days positive and negative this day and these particular events just locked him in for 2020. I don't gamble but I'm willing to put up 5cents on it and we all report back here after the election to see him win by the landslide. ;-) The time frame will be here before we know it.
I'm not sure how to take this. I feel a tinge of sarcasm perhaps. :)
 

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Lol... tight group on that one your weapon is zeroed with that one.
 

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Wishful thinking and since the entire Ukraine thing has been far more damning for Biden it appears that one of the socialists will be the Democrat's candidate. I guess we will see what the voters think about that.

This has been a side show. Good entertainment but the cities will still go Democrat. Those that live in a concrete jungle seem to be quite willing to give up their freedoms for a hand out. That means the states with enormous cities will go Democrat. The rural flyover states will go Republican. Those that don't live in concrete jungles absolutely do not want states like California telling them what to do.

I cannot imagine what it is like to live in Illinois. One county, Cook County in Chicago, has the population to rule over the rest of the state which is basically small towns and farms.

Our founding fathers were wise to create a republic not a democracy. Without the electoral college we would basically have mob rule. We might even see the Democrats winning the popular vote again and the Republicans winning the electoral college. And as usual it all depends upon voter turnout.

That might be what the future holds for the United States. City dwellers will scream about the popular vote and demand a constitutional amendment which has absolutely no chance of being ratified by the flyover states.

I find it absolutely amazing how two people can read the same document.. read exactly the same words... and see two totally different things. I read the transcript of the phone call with the Ukrainian President. I don't see any thing there. But Democrats seen a mafia style strong arm. The Ukrainian President has done interviews on television saying there was no such thing but the Democrats are crying for impeachment. I personally think they are nuts... that they are truly affected by TDS and can't see anything else but their own hate. Hate that blinds them to the corruption on their side.
 

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Live panel questioning on the matter. Of course the two parties will paint opposite pictures like it usually plays out on that level and on the social level like forums and basic convo.
 

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Unique and unprecedented because urgent concern was not sent in time because went to the white house first that made it passed tge 7 days and had executive privilege that is supposed to cover up wrongdoing. Is that the round about answers we're supposed to understand?
 

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Unique and unprecedented because urgent concern was not sent in time because went to the white house first that made it passed tge 7 days and had executive privilege that is supposed to cover up wrongdoing. Is that the round about answers we're supposed to understand?
Hey those type of answers is all that some need to hear to come to their own understanding. :nerd:
 

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So only the people working under the DNI can bring up urgent concern, but someone outside of that brings it to the intelligence attention then they are no longer allowed under urgent concern. What if it was like... You know... Urgent.

---------- Post added at 09:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:37 AM ----------

Stick to the time line and stop asking opinion questions. ****.
 

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Unique and unprecedented because urgent concern was not sent in time because went to the white house first that made it passed tge 7 days and had executive privilege that is supposed to cover up wrongdoing. Is that the round about answers we're supposed to understand?
I watched some of that. Rep. Schiff is using an old technique of tell the truth, tell a half-lie then tell a lie. I noticed that he continually referred to the investigation as one against a political opponent. Ukraine was already investigating the corruption of its former administration. It was an investigation into a corrupt former US Vice-President. Biden is so dumb that the bragged about his corruption on television in 2018. Of course he's going to be investigates unless you believe running for political office makes someone immune to the law. Schiff always leaves that part out.

His sideways insults of a former Navy seal and Admiral really irritated me. I am absolutely sure Maguire has far more honor and integrity than Schiff every will. I stopped watching shortly after that. This is nothing more than political circus. My wife just told me she is disgusted with the way the Democrats are treating Maguire. I knew it was coming that is why I stopped watching.

As far as the above comment, Maguire explained it well. He did not have the authority to release executive privilege information. But that isn't all. He had been working with both committees as well as other department to get the information released. It has been and there is nothing there.
 

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His sideways insults of a former Navy seal and Admiral really irritated me. I am absolutely sure Maguire has far more honor and integrity than Schiff every will. I stopped watching shortly after that. This is nothing more than .....
Hopefully you and everyone else(but since you singled this out) was more than highly offended by the then candidate now current President direct insults and comments towards the late John McCain.

If there wasn’t and isn’t that same or more offense taken from that then that’s dancing on selective outrage on a matter like this one like it depends on who it’s coming from then it’s a situation of “how dare he”.
 

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Hopefully you and everyone else(but since you singled this out) was more than highly offended by the then candidate now current President direct insults and comments towards the late John McCain.

If there wasn’t and isn’t that same or more offense taken from that then that’s dancing on selective outrage on a matter like this one like it depends on who it’s coming from then it’s a situation of “how dare he”.
lol

"JoHn McCaIn wAs A RiNo!"

doncha know only dems "can't see anything else but their own hate. Hate that blinds them to the corruption on their side."
 

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lol

"JoHn McCaIn wAs A RiNo!"

doncha know only dems "can't see anything else but their own hate. Hate that blinds them to the corruption on their side."
Lol.. maybe a good solution would be to medicate every and anyone that leans towards dems to treat them for their Trump Derangement Syndrome. This newfound Syndrome must be treated and stopped now. :smile2:
 

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Hopefully you and everyone else(but since you singled this out) was more than highly offended by the then candidate now current President direct insults and comments towards the late John McCain.
Yes. I don't care much for President Trump. He is an obnoxious human being. I've said that many times.

I sometimes disagreed with John McCain's policies. But I would never have questioned his integrity.
 

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Nancy Pelosi knows there's no grounds for impeachment. Every other democrat in office knows it too. They're just meandering to the hard left voters which are, sadly, holding all of the energy on the left. If Nancy Pelosi didn't call for impeachment, she'd catch fire from those energetic SJWs. It's all just a publicity stunt and distraction. It's also alienating the independent and moderate democrat voters that they rely on heavily. Calls for impeachment are not polling well in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Florida, 3 states the dems have to win if they want to have a prayer at winning in 2020.

I have a few union friends that I keep in touch with that have voted democrat since the 70s. They are fed up with the witch hunts and just wish their party would shut up.
 

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I willing to bet that any day now the line of “there was no collusion with the Ukraine” will flow out in a bit.” I was joking around and the rest of the stuff you heard I didn’t say it with that meaning behind it”. Seems to be the common stance on quite a few given matters since 2016 and now completely acceptable by some.
 

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Again, I think Democrats are creating a political circus. Schiff several times made a big deal about the phone call's transcript being put on a classified server. He's grandstanding. But it was picked up and repeated over and over by his friends in the media.

It was a discussion between two Presidents. I have read it. The original classification was marked out but still there. It was classified Secret/Noforn. Of course it was on a classified server. Only Hillary Clinton can get away with storing classified information on an unclassified server. It wasn't declassified until the President of Ukraine agreed. The whistle blowers own complaint consisted of originally classified material. It had Top Secret attachments that have since been declassified. It had to be stored on a classified server as well. Mishandling classified was a serious offense when I was in the Air Force and I'm sure it still is today.

I am also sure there are more surprises to follow.
 

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I read that transcript too. There's nothing there. Trump didn't promise or threaten anything. There was no criminal act. There's nothing more to investigate; further analysis is moot. The “Whistleblower” was just another anti-Trump leftist trying to generate the appearance of impropriety to disparage the president - another coordinated con-job.

This pattern is pretty predictable (remember the Kavanaugh hearings?). A leftist cooks up a phony allegation and the Dems pile-on to legitimize it (under the guise of “getting to the truth”). But it's never about the truth; it's about optics and media exposure. If the endeavor succeeds at making the president "look bad," and if that sways a few more voters to the left, then it's worth the effort.

As I've said, I think the American public is becoming wise to this political click-bait, and it's going to cost the Dems dearly in 2020.
 

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Nothing?



That tweet from Giuliani just confirmed what was in the complaint.


Nothing to see there just a convo about how to bake brownies.
 
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