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I have had some minor electrical issues for a while now. Little things such as when I get above 3,000 RPM's I would lose most of my power, the interior lights would dim, and eventually the car would die if revved to high or revved high enough, for long enough (not that I go around everyday at 5,000 RPM or anything, just where I missed a shift or something). It never really got worse though, and after having the alt tested at two different places and it testing out fine, I didn't really give it a second though.

A couple of days ago, I was accelerating off a stop light (nothing hard just normal) and suddenly the car just died. No power, no nothing. I popped the hood, and heard a repetitive clicking noise coming from what sounded to be the like the fuse box. I removed the positive power connector, the click stopped, and I got a little power, but not enough to start the car, and after trying to start it, it completely died again. Repeated this about two more times and finally it just started, and acted as if nothing happened.

Today it ran fine until I got home from work, parked my car, attempted to lock and arm it, and it was gone again. Popped the hood, did everything I did the previous night, but nothing. Took it up to get tested, and it had a full charge. Checked all the fuses, but they appeared fine, none busted. I reinstalled the battery and it seemed like at first it was back to normal. Turned the key once and everything powered up properly, but when I tried to start it, it died again. The difference being this time (not sure if it just started doing this or I didn't notice it before) there was a clicking noise coming from the back of the car on the drivers side. The clicks will start out clicking about 1-2 times a second, and gradually slow down till it stops for about 2 seconds, then again back at the starting pace.

Here are some pictures of the [box] (if you want to call it that) that the sound is coming from.



That is in the trunk behind the taillight.
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i believe thats the inertia switch, not sure why the relay would be going crazy though.

check all the grounds from the battery, block, and firewall, clean the battery connectors and make sure the terminals on the battery are tight and secure. it sounds like a bad connection somewhere to me.
 

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I took apart the terminal connectors and cleaned them with a wire brush and put it back together nice and tight, and what you assume would make since but that it starts sometimes and not other throws me off. Haven't really checked the grounds well though. What does the inertia switch do?
 

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the inertia switch is supposed to kill power to the fuel pump in the event that a large amount of g-force hits the car. so if you get rear ended hard enough it stops pumping fuel so there is less chance of a fire

how much voltage are you getting when your driving? if you turn on your lights are they dim and do the interior lights come on fairly dim?
 

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Hmmm, well if that were the case and it was tripped for some random reason, I would have power, just no fuel....So that doesn't sound right.

Damn, I'm stumped.
 

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are you referring to that big black box or the little switch with the red push button on top? The inertia switch cuts power to the fuel pump in the event of an accident or electical fault. If you are hearing clicking coming from the black box that is mounted on your quarter panel (pictures 1 and 2) it may be a relay module of some sort as I can see a bundle of wires leading into it. On new edge's thats where the FPDM (Fuel Pump Drivers Module) is at. Can you unbolt it and take some pictures of it?

Have you gotten your alternator tested? There is a relay module that controls alot of things but Im not sure where it would be located at in your vehicle. That may be it but Im not 100% certain.
 

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alright just looked and the CCRM is located in the same place on your as the new edge's. Id like to know what the box is though, if you are hearing clicking coming from that box then there may be some relays in there or something.
 
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The actual box, not the switch. I had the alt tested before and it tested fine. Also when I took the battery up to get tested it had a full charge. If the alt was bad it would have been dead (right?). I'll have to try and take it apart for better pictures tomorrow as the car is not in my garage, and I would have to push it up a decent incline to get it there, and its dark out already (stupid short winter days).
 

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alright just looked and the CCRM is located in the same place on your as the new edge's. Id like to know what the box is though, if you are hearing clicking coming from that box then there may be some relays in there or something.
Yeah the clicking is differently coming from there. I could feel it when I put my hand on it. CCRM?
 

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no its not the ccrm as your ccrm is located in the passengers side front fender well behind the fender like mine. hmmm... youve caught my interest and I am now searching what it could be;)
 

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That's what I like to hear! Lol. And I was asking was it stood for but I looked it up.
 

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oh... Contant Control Relay Module;) but you have alread looked that up:D
 

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I searched and searched and couldnt find anything on what thay may be. Since you have pictures I would post up in th 96-98 section to see if they would know what it possibly might be and then you can go from there.
 

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Crap.... Alright I'll give that a shot. Thanks for the attempt anyway.
 

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no problem, im still trying to look at other things for what it might be so dont loose hope;)
 

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Well I have talked to a couple of people I know about it. One has suggested that it might be a loose ground, and by me reattaching the battery connectors its moving the wire a bit to where its grounding again, and vice-versa. Another has said that since the power is being drained from the entire car, rather than just lights or starter, that its one of the main power cables that have a loose, or corroded connection. So tomorrow I will need to go through all of the main wiring and see if I can find the culprit. Does anybody know where to find a wiring diagram from my car?

The clicking from a relay in the back of the car is still throwing me off though... Oh and what I failed to mention earlier is that it will even do it with the keys out of the car and it turned completely off (lights and everything). In order to get it to stop I have to disconnect the battery....So wired.
 

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defintely check all of your connections. What it sounds like is what happened to me in my 89 fox. My relay for my fuel pump had took a crap, internal magneto switch was sticking to and causing the circuit to stay connected and not release when the car was off, and even when the car was off would still cycle itself. That could be your problem of killing the power. If you do have something like that going on it would kill the battery. Check to make sure all your power and ground wires are nice and tight and not corroded or rusted over. if they are take a wire brush and clean thoroughly. To help corrosion around the battery terminals smear them with some vaseline and then attach the connectors. If this fails then you have other electrical problems that need to be diagnosed further.
 
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