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Holy moly has technology come far! Remember those cheap ebay plug and play kits? Now I have Morimoto 7.0 H1 Minis retrofitted in my mustang with Morimoto h1 bulbs, morimoto V2 ballasts and a morimoto controller. The light output is par none - but what about the guys not wanting to drop all this time and money into retros?

I daily a 2018 F150 Ecoboost. The halogens this truck comes with should be illegal. Infact I've read the same thing from other guys. H11 bulbs from quality vendors are sold out continuously because Ford skimped so badly on the headlights - and the F150 is such a hot selling truck in general. Meet the new LED bulbs. I don't know about you guys - but this is exciting. I'm not talking about cheap amazon LED's, but LED's that actually mimic the halogen bulb so they actually work in a reflector housing and not blind people and actually project light on the road.

I was deciding on the Morimoto 2stroke 2.0, Supernova V4 or Diode Dynamics SR1. I eventually chose the 2stroke being a morimoto fan. It's also the only bulb that's in stock as of this post. Now I am talking about my F150 here. I have yet to install them as I'm waiting on my dust caps to come in (these LED's have heat sinks and fans to cool them so I got deeper dust caps to allow for more air flow) but the reason I made this thread is - has anyone tried these new LED bulbs (again, quality ones that mimic the halogen filiment - not cheap ones) in the stock 9007 housing of a Mustang? The purpose of this thread is to perhaps help people that desire quality light output without the costs/hassle of a retro. I could see guys with new headlights rocking a set of these new high quality LED's getting some good output that's usable and not blinding and not having to drop the coin on retros. I can't see them rivaling quality retros, but I can see them being a rival to cheap retros. (If you've seen a retro using cheap amazon projectors you'll know what I mean. If you've seen a retro using Morimoto mini 7.0's you'll know what I mean. The difference is incredible. Infact I have a retro using cheap projectors sitting in my garage and the output is garbage compared to Morimotos)

I'll post my results after I get the LED's installed, but I'm excited. Both my Mustang from 2001 and now my F150 seem dangerous at night with halogen. I also get headaches at night because I'm straining so hard to see. Morimoto killed the HID game. I wonder how the LEDs perform. According to tests they are supposed to be 2.5x brighter while light being usable. 550lumens at night SUCK.

For the record, if you guys want the absolute best apparently the supernova v4 is the jam. They are sold out until mid-Jan due to popularity.

These 2stroke 2.0s come with a 3 year warranty to boot. How can you beat that on a bulb? TRS is good about their warranties too. I had to warranty a Acme speedy start ballast that died after 6 months (this is why I just went to morimoto ballasts in my retro) and they replaced it and all they asked for is a picture of the old ballast with the power wire cut.

To note: While the 2018 F150 is fun being a twin turboed V6, the Mustang is my passion and money pit. Only thing my truck has is the STX package and tint. I'm keeping it mostly stock as it's a DD and not really my passion. 10 speeds and 350hp/400tq out of a 2.7 V6 getting 25mpg is nice though.
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Here is a thread I made for my 07 gt a while back. Its not the same but I found that leds in the new edge housing were even worse than in the s197. I tried a few different designs in my 02 gt as well and all had a huge hot spot and too high of a cutoff.

https://www.s197forum.com/threads/led-headlights-my-experience.133050/
My opt7 LED bulbs in both my mustang and crosstrek standard housings are ridiculously bright but they irradiate light everywhere. I am not sure how to fix this.. other than make retrofits and use h1 bulbs either led or hid
The 2 problems are the extra light output the stock housings were not designed for and the placement/orientation of the led. If it was placed in the same spot that the filament is located on a 9007 halogen bulb an led would cast light in a similar fashion as a stock halogen.

I bought a set of ebay projector headlights that Ive tested leds in and was satisfied with the results. They dont fit perfectly but will fit.

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Here are some pics of 9007 leds in the stock housings and leds in my projector housings (H1 bulbs). The pic of the cutoff from outside the car, the drivers side headlight wasnt on, I had some issues with these lights when I first got them. Also the first two pics are when I had hids in the stock housings, then leds in the stock housings and then leds in projector housings.



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The 2 problems are the extra light output the stock housings were not designed for and the placement/orientation of the led. If it was placed in the same spot that the filament is located on a 9007 halogen bulb an led would cast light in a similar fashion as a stock halogen.

I bought a set of ebay projector headlights that Ive tested leds in and was satisfied with the results. They dont fit perfectly but will fit.

---------- Post added January 10th, 2019 at 12:00 AM ---------- Previous post was January 9th, 2019 at 11:41 PM ----------

Here are some pics of 9007 leds in the stock housings and leds in my projector housings (H1 bulbs). The pic of the cutoff from outside the car, the drivers side headlight wasnt on, I had some issues with these lights when I first got them. Also the first two pics are when I had hids in the stock housings, then leds in the stock housings and then leds in projector housings.



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The ebay projectors, were they just the projectors or cheap projector headlights? Do you have a link to them?
The 2 problems are the extra light output the stock housings were not designed for and the placement/orientation of the led. If it was placed in the same spot that the filament is located on a 9007 halogen bulb an led would cast light in a similar fashion as a stock halogen.

I bought a set of ebay projector headlights that Ive tested leds in and was satisfied with the results. They dont fit perfectly but will fit.

---------- Post added January 10th, 2019 at 12:00 AM ---------- Previous post was January 9th, 2019 at 11:41 PM ----------

Here are some pics of 9007 leds in the stock housings and leds in my projector housings (H1 bulbs). The pic of the cutoff from outside the car, the drivers side headlight wasnt on, I had some issues with these lights when I first got them. Also the first two pics are when I had hids in the stock housings, then leds in the stock housings and then leds in projector housings.



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The ebay projectors, were they just the projectors or cheap projector headlights? Do you have a link to them?
They were cheap ebay projector headlights

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/382127336302

I like the look of them and the beam is fine with the halogens that come with it. The first set were defective but they sent out a second pair no questions asked. I think I still have them lol.
I was considering those a while back, do you think LEDs or HIDs would be more edfective in the projector housing? Everywhere i google, it says leds perform poorly in projector housings. Or is there specific led bulb type that you buy?
I was considering those a while back, do you think LEDs or HIDs would be more edfective in the projector housing? Everywhere i google, it says leds perform poorly in projector housings. Or is there specific led bulb type that you buy?
It depends. Halogen projectors are not meant for an hid bulb because, like a halogen reflector bulb, theyre desgned for the filament to be in a specific spot. As long as the led chip or hid salt is in the same spot as the corresponding halogen bulb filament then the performance should be about the same. Same rules apply for leds in a projector housing. Just remember there are specific projectors for halogen or led bulbs. The ones that come in those headlights are for halogens and since the led chips on the leds Im using in them are not in the same place as the halogen filament the beam isnt as sharp and when a halogen bulb was used in them but performance is still pretty good as you can see.

There are many different types of led bulbs so be aware of that. Follow my link I go over a few different designs.
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They were cheap ebay projector headlights

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/382127336302

I like the look of them and the beam is fine with the halogens that come with it. The first set were defective but they sent out a second pair no questions asked. I think I still have them lol.
For anyone looking at getting these, I have heard they have a tendency to melt when using HID bulbs. HIDs come in 35w and 55w which affects light output and heat, and these headlights still melt with 35w HIDs. This is just my .02c as I'm sure people have HIDs in these headlights without issues.
They were cheap ebay projector headlights

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/382127336302

I like the look of them and the beam is fine with the halogens that come with it. The first set were defective but they sent out a second pair no questions asked. I think I still have them lol.
For anyone looking at getting these, I have heard they have a tendency to melt when using HID bulbs. HIDs come in 35w and 55w which affects light output and heat, and these headlights still melt with 35w HIDs. This is just my .02c as I'm sure people have HIDs in these headlights without issues.
Ive heard that too but I wonder if using a wax to increase transparency of the lens would have any effect. Or if using leds would help since they run cooler. But Im sure having a projector might offset that sense its like putting a magnifying glass in front of the bulb. Only time will tell I guess.
So i got the leds installed and it's a total night and day difference. Best part? No glare. The hype is real.

I suggest you guys look up headlight revolution on YouTube. Leds are good...but you have to get a brand that mimics the halogen bulb. Headlight reflectors were designed for halogen. If you can get leds that directly mimic a halogen bulb you'll get light where you want it without glare.

Apparently the only companies to achieve this have been Morimoto 2stroke 2.0, Diode dynamics sr1 and supernova v4.

Everything else is crap.

Snorky, like you I was put off because my opt7 leds scattered light without focusing it. You must, and this is key, must get a bulb that exactly mimics the halogen bulb.

You will pay a price for this, but $110 after a coupon code from the retrofit source is worth it.

If you so get leds look up headlight revolutions video how to aim led bulbs. It's dead accurate. I did it on my f150 and there is no glare and it's actually nice to drive at night. Not retrofit nice but nice

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I cant remember but there are LED lights that are adjustable. Like you can rotate the LED's so the light is being distributed. I cant remember but I believe its XenonHID led lights or it was broview led's.

I believe they have youtube videos of them. Only thing that concerns me if the led lights disassemble so you can use the locking piece that are headlights use.

I thought about going HID not sure yet. I have a pair of LED's but as some state, the lighting and light discharge is not great than just using a regular halogen bulb.
It's amazing how technology has evolved in recent years, and I totally agree with you that good headlights are essential for safe driving.
LED bulbs are a great option, especially when they are of high quality and designed to mimic the halogen filament. I've heard great things about the Morimoto 2stroke 2.0, the Supernova V4, and the Diode Dynamics SR1. It's fantastic that you went with the 2stroke and are waiting for the dust caps to install them. It'll be exciting to see the results. If you're looking for high-quality lighting products, I recommend visiting Buy Lighting & Work Lights Online - Fast & Free Delivery UK - Shop Now. They have an extensive range of lighting products that could suit your needs. Keep us updated on your results with the new LED bulbs, and stay safe on the road!
I've used the Supernova V.4 and GTR Lighting Ultra 2 bulbs. Both are amazing. DRASTIC increase in light output with great beam patterns.
Im just wanting a good Led thats totally plug and play, here is one on amazon with good reviews https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BNBP7P5F/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AO5OKWRBPW658&psc=1

What is the best or really good plug and play for $100 or less?
I tested a couple different designs over on s197 forum a few years back. As in my previous post, most leds do not put the led in the correct spot to get an oem beam pattern. You will get lots of glare.
Im just wanting a good Led thats totally plug and play, here is one on amazon with good reviews https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0BNBP7P5F/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=AO5OKWRBPW658&psc=1

What is the best or really good plug and play for $100 or less?
That's the problem. LEDs that are cheap like that won't have good heat sinks, may require modules to translate the pulse so the LEDs will work with modern electrical systems, and won't have good beam patterns because the diode isn't mounted in the exact same position from the base as the halogen bulb, and/or the diode won't have adjustment for rotation so that you can get the chipset facing 3 and 9 o' clock like you must do.

There are excellent LED bulbs out there that are plug and play and will outperform halogen OE bulbs in halogen housings, but you have to spend money for them. They're typically going to run $100 to $150 per bulb. Check out Headlight Revolution on YouTube.
Ok thanks for replys------which plug and play for let say $160 or less?
Ok im not getting any specific recommendations----Ill be a guinea pig, after some research here is what I ordered Amazon.com and im going to order these----- VLEDS MICRO EVOLUTION HIGH/LOW 9007 HB5, ----one will be for the mustang the other for my F150 not sure which yet. Ill be back with reviews for anybody interested.
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