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lol, was this supposed to be serious?

any drug arrests they'll make for the rest of their lives are only a drop in the bucket compared to what dealers are getting away with right under their noses. this is only posturing, and funny posturing at that. the ski masks and dramatic music are a nice twist though, maybe it's intimidating to people who watch a lot of movies.

luckily my area doesn't have any kind of heroin epidemic to speak of, but it does make me wonder whether i'd prefer that or big brother running around all over town in APCs dressed like ISIS
 

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I have always hated the idea of police hiding their faces like bank robbers. Perhaps they think its intimidating but to me they look like Nazi SS wantabees. A funny thing happens when a person's identity is hidden. That start acting like Nazi SS wantabee. I don't want to see anything like like in my local sheriff's department. Sheriff's are elected. I would donate time and money against any sheriff that supported that type of behavior.

But our county isn't that heavily populated and I personally know the last several sheriffs so they'd get an ear full before the election.
 

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I have always hated the idea of police hiding their faces like bank robbers. Perhaps they think its intimidating but to me they look like Nazi SS wantabees. A funny thing happens when a person's identity is hidden. That start acting like Nazi SS wantabee. I don't want to see anything like like in my local sheriff's department. Sheriff's are elected. I would donate time and money against any sheriff that supported that type of behavior.
Not to mention it looks like they just grabbed this guy from the IT department and had him dress up to even out the number of people in the frame:



This **** is to just make old people in their retirement communities feel like the Sheriffs are taking down big-time drug dealers. They're probably just busting low-level pushers who get replaced the second their predecessors go to prison.

The heroin epidemic in this country is pretty ****ing out of control, but this kind of **** is just laughable. Drug dealers don't give a **** and the drug addicts don't have enough mental capacity to give a ****. Locking everyone up and turning a blind eye ain't gonna do **** as has been proven with evidence from the past 40 ****ing years.
 

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This **** is to just make old people in their retirement communities feel like the Sheriffs are taking down big-time drug dealers.
Hey, I resemble that comment.

Just to let you know even at my advance age I'm not scared of much. Even with a two year layoff I went to a match last year and finished seventh out of 35 competitors. This is not a stand still and shoot at a bullseye match. It is an action match. All I have to do is dry fire a little to get the muscle memory back.

Actually, most of the bikers I ride with are approaching my age (Yes, I am the oldest.). The damnest thing about an old biker is that they don't intend to take **** from anyone and they are fully aware they cannot wrestle anyone to the ground.. So, if you think you are about to enter a fist fight with them you just might find a gun in your face. That is more rhetoric than truth but half of the guys I know carry every day. The other half carry as needed. (And all of them are old people not scared of much.)

You want to know what scare us, medical problems. I've been hospitalize twice in the last four years for heart problems. That is why I told my wife I wouldn't go on any more long rides. Many of the other old farts are facing medical problems of their own. My best friend is facing a deteriorating bone disease. We never know which ride will be his last. It isn't scary people that is killing us. Its time. That is something you cannot defeat. Time is against us all.

P.S. My best friend carries a gun. Even as he becomes more and more crippled he is not scared of much and his job takes him to some pretty bad spots in Indy. It's all a matter of attitude. You can live your live scared or you cannot. It is totally up to you.
 

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Hey, I resemble that comment. Just to let you know even at my advance age I'm not scared of much. Even with a two year layoff I went to a match last year and finished seventh out of 35 competitors. All I have to do is dry fire a little to get the muscle memory back.

Actually, most of the bikers I ride with are approaching my age (Yes, I am the oldest.). The damnest thing about an old biker is that they don't intend to take **** from anyone. And, it you think you are about to enter a fist fight you just might find a gun in your face. Half of the guys I know carry every day. The other half carry as needed. It is the great equalizer.
YOU'RE not scared of much. You are also a Vietnam vet who likely saw **** or at least were close with people who saw **** that no human should ever have to encounter or endure. Having some first-hand perspective about the actual horrors of humanity likely tends to make wannabe gangsters or even real gangsters a little less intimidating.

The snowbirds in Florida probably don't share your personality and perspective.
 

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YOU'RE not scared of much. You are also a Vietnam vet who likely saw **** or at least were close with people who saw **** that no human should ever have to encounter or endure. Having some first-hand perspective about the actual horrors of humanity likely tends to make wannabe gangsters or even real gangsters a little less intimidating.

The snowbirds in Florida probably don't share your personality and perspective.
Sorry, but didn't really see that. Some of my Army friends did but I didn't. As an aircraft mechanic I was behind lines. I hate those that are what we used to call BX heros or what is now called stolen valor. I would never do that. Yes, I'm a Vietnam veteran but I really didn't see the bad ****. The worst was when my base became a medical evacuation base for the the battle in Cambodia. Thousand of wounded were brought in. As an mechanic I really didn't see that. I was on the flightline. I was too busy trying to get airplanes back in the air because people were dying on the ground.

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It was very busy but during the push I remember had to change out the attitude direction computer on an F-4D. I was laying upside down on the ejection set with my head resting on the rudder pedals. I do not know who designed the damn thing but the computer was almost impossible to reach. I got it done. Climbed out of the cock pit and hit the ground. Around me were the bomb loading guys with pallets of bombs and the pilot was waiting. They couldn't load bombs with power on the aircraft and I needed power to test the instruments. Just as soon as my feet hit the ground they went into action.

We were on war footing which is not civilian footing. We put aircraft in the air that would have been grounded in the states because a backup of a backup system had failed. You need to understand people on the ground were dying. We had to get airplanes in the air.

I wasn't in the ****. But I saw it.
 

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Sorry, but didn't really see that. Some of my Army friends did but I didn't. As an aircraft mechanic I was behind lines. I hate those that are what we used to call BX heros or what is now called stolen valor. I would never do that. Yes, I'm a Vietnam veteran but I really didn't see the bad ****. The worst was when my base became a medical evacuation base for the the battle in Cambodia. Thousand of wounded were brought in. As an mechanic I really didn't see that. I was on the flightline. I was too busy trying to get airplanes back in the air because people were dying on the ground.
Perhaps not but just being in the combat zone while also knowing people directly involved in the bad **** at least gives some perspective (in my opinion) on who the actual scary people are in this world. And in any case, you're like in a biker gang so you're pretty much Hell's Angels (just kidding).

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I always forget about the F-4 even though it was one of the first models I built as a kid and probably aided in creating my obsession with airplanes. Strangely beautiful jet.

 

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The F-4 was proof that a brick could fly if you added enough power. It was a Navy plane that the Air Force didn't want. And one hell of a workhorse. It became an extremely capable fighter bomber. I worked on two versions the RF-4C (reconnaissance) and F-4D. I also worked on C-130s and an occasional Jolly Green Giant. I was young and somewhat skinny back then. One of my jobs was to crawl into the wing of a C-130, the fuel cell, to change out a fuel sensor probe. Later models had and external access point.

I turned 21 there. Guess what? No one cared. Age didn't matter. I also made SSgt there.
 

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My Intro to Aerospace instructor (long history in the field of aerospace, was Secretary of the Air Force for a period of time in the late 70s/early 80s) always said a couple of interesting things: one of which was "if you strap a big enough engine to something, anything can fly". The other was "if it looks good, it'll fly good". Seems to be about right...
 

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The F-4 was proof that a brick could fly if you added enough power. It was a Navy plane that the Air Force didn't want. And one hell of a workhorse. It became an extremely capable fighter bomber. I worked on two versions the RF-4C (reconnaissance) and F-4D. I also worked on C-130s and an occasional Jolly Green Giant. I was young and somewhat skinny back then. One of my jobs was to crawl into the wing of a C-130, the fuel cell, to change out a fuel sensor probe. Later models had and external access point.

I turned 21 there. Guess what? No one cared. Age didn't matter. I also made SSgt there.
my dad used to build C-130s at lockheed. you might have both touched the same part at some point.

which actually sucks for you, because he was an avid masturbator.
 

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I started to type out the guys I know, are close friends with, that were sole survivors of patrols or blown to bits by mines. You need to understand. The war was only just becoming out of favor with the cities. Rural folk were still enlisting. I enlisted. Later, because a lot of my friends were there, I volunteered for Vietnam. I was sent to Udorn, Thailand about 30 miles from Laos. I was part of a build up force there. The top ace of the war flew out of our base.

Many years later, the gulf war erupted. I was at Headquarters Strategic Air Command. I had just come back from a very expensive training assignment. My boss was gone. I knew the guys in assignment. I volunteered for the war. Just about everyone I knew did the same. Most were pilots. I was just a mechanic with a lot of R&D experience. I got orders the next day. I told my wife and she stopped talking to me. My boss, a LtC, came back off of leave two weeks later. He knew the guys in assignment as well and outranked me. He said they didn't send me to a million dollar school just to be a mechanic. My orders were immediately cancelled. My wife started talking to me again.

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Citizen soldiers run in the family. My grandfather was Army and fought in WWI. My step-father was Navy during WWII. My father was a little younger. He was in Korea. My uncle was 101st during WWII. He parachuted into Normandy and was at Bastogne. I was Air Force in Southeast Asia. My brothers were Navy and Army (European theater). The next generation was either female or unable to serve due to health. My son was the only man and he had disqualifying medical problems. He almost died twice in middle school. He tried but failed to get waivers. The next generation has one Marine and one Army.

Country people serve.
 
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