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Using the forced rotation that a rotary has, it increases the cutting ability of the polishes, therefore, making it able to cut down better than a DA, and also allows you to get those results in a much faster time.
 

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Yes, true story. :lmao



Definitely practice first. It doesn't take long at all to get the hang of. And the results are far superior to a DA polisher.
Oh for sure, i think ill pick it up quickly. So far from what ive read its really just about paying attention to what you are doing and being smooth and always moving.

I don't know that the results are "far superior" but the same results may be achieved faster. What can a rotary do that a DA cannot now?
Technically speaking if you finish down a panel with a rotary vs a DA and then use a gloss meter to measure the amount of reflected light coming from the surface, a rotary does actually produce a more level/ glossier surface that can result in a better looking finish.

But TBH, if you took 2 identical cars of the same color and corrected both, one with a DA and the other with a Rotary, i doubt the difference would be huge.

Except the guy with the rotary would finish way faster lol.

As a pro, a rotary means you can correct a whole car in alot less time, which means more $/hr and cars per week which means more overall dinero amigo.

Plus the smoothness and ability to cut with foam for sure surpass DAs.

I was talking to chris about this. Think about it like this:

A Flex PE-14 on speed setting 1 spins faster than most DAs on speed setting 6. lol. While that does add friction and heat, that means you can move way way faster and get the same or better results. I also think a rotary will be able to squeeze all the performance out of a polish as well, cutting and finishing wise- but thats just a theory lol.
 

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I wasn't paying attention while using one once and it actually started to make the paint smoke. Really easy to mess up. Never made that mistake again :lol
 

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I wasn't paying attention while using one once and it actually started to make the paint smoke. Really easy to mess up. Never made that mistake again :lol
Its all about paying attention...or so ive read lol.

Did you burn through? or did it just get really hot?
 

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Luckily I didn't burn through. But holy **** was that paint hot when I touched it. Haha
Do you remember what speed you were at when you did it?

i was watching a Meguiars class on rotaries and the guy intentionally burned the paint to make a point but he tilted the rotary up on the edge of the pad and used pressure @ 2400 rpm and it still took like 5-6 seconds.

Most things ive read say that you usually dont go more than 15-1800rpm when polishing or compounding lol. He was using a heavy pad at high speed, he basically did everything wrong and STILL had to hold it in one place for 5+ seconds. Seems like as long as you pay attention, keep moving and use appropriate speed, youll most likely be fine.
 

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ehhh not really interested in any of that. I can send you .5oz to make a 22oz bottle with it.That should be plenty to determine if you like it
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Modded to be honest with you there is more to using a rotary than keeping it moving and being smooth, you have to put extra caution when polishing an edge and over curves as well as other things to keep an eye out for. But don't be afraid it will take some time to get used to but as I said stick to compounding with your griots and ease into using it by polishing with it in finishing stage. I will keep this post to a minimum so that this thread doesnt get bombarded on the rotary topic. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me:).

As for the member who wants to try UWW+ believe me you will like it I have used alot of different quick detailing product and this is by far the best and the price is great compared to other high priced quick detailers like Prima Slick, Adams, Auto finesse, CG V7, etc. Plus its more than a QD its a waterless wash making it safer to remove dust particles than other products. I still have my bottle and I ordered early last year the fact that you can make 5.5 gallons of Waterless wash for $20 is amazing all you need is to go buy distilled water gallons.
 

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Modded to be honest with you there is more to using a rotary than keeping it moving and being smooth, you have to put extra caution when polishing an edge and over curves as well as other things to keep an eye out for. But don't be afraid it will take some time to get used to but as I said stick to compounding with your griots and ease into using it by polishing with it in finishing stage. I will keep this post to a minimum so that this thread doesnt get bombarded on the rotary topic. If you have anymore questions feel free to PM me:).

As for the member who wants to try UWW+ believe me you will like it I have used alot of different quick detailing product and this is by far the best and the price is great compared to other high priced quick detailers like Prima Slick, Adams, Auto finesse, CG V7, etc. Plus its more than a QD its a waterless wash making it safer to remove dust particles than other products. I still have my bottle and I ordered early last year the fact that you can make 5.5 gallons of Waterless wash for $20 is amazing all you need is to go buy distilled water gallons.
I wasnt implying that what i said was ALL you have to need to be worried about with rotaries, just some of the main things. Ive been reading/learning everything i can so that when that flex gets here i can spin it up and give it a run. Ive been watching very detailed videos and such showing how to polish edges(polishing off the panel-not into it), how to manage heat, how to break down the abrasives in the polish correctly and use the polish to its potential. I feel really good about going with the rotary after finding out that the direct spinning motion of a rotary diminishes polishes in a more consistent manner which will result in the ability to finish better than a DA. I really want to see just how well FG400 does with a rotary.

I plan on spending many many hours on test junkyard panels before i ever get the flex on a car. I want to get the Zenith Point Method mastered before i depend on the flex as my primary machine.

Once i get the hang of it i will most likely do some comparison videos of my Griots and Flex with the same pads and polishes just to give comparisons that you dont see much of.

But i feel you on the Griots for compounding at first, ill probably get a couple MF pads at first. Then once i master the rotary, ill see about doing a whole correction with it.

Making the jump, feelin good about it.

Alot of people on here come to me with questions and want advice. For the newer detailers on here who dont know Dannyboy281, he was the one who answered my questions and gave me advice when i first started this crazy obsession.

Glad youre back man! Reps for hookin me up with a good deal on the flex bro.
 

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You'll love the Flex!


Now back on topic I have about half a jar of SV Onyx I'm looking to trade off for something new. Any takers? This is a great wax. Very little goes a long way and looks stunning. Not super long lasting but still a great wax. Purchased in late December of 2012 Used about 15 times.


 

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You'll love the Flex!


Now back on topic I have about half a jar of SV Onyx I'm looking to trade off for something new. Any takers? This is a great wax. Very little goes a long way and looks stunning. Not super long lasting but still a great wax. Purchased in late December of 2012 Used about 15 times.


Id go for that but i got this new cloud 9 stuff thats supposed to be pretty good for cheaper hahaha

PS. Im super stoked about making the jump to a rotary!
 

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LOL I got out of detailing the Mach for a bit and got into Detailing myself for a while LOL. I hit a year of working out but recently, consistently going 5 to 6 days a week concentrating on each main muscle group, but I got injured either at the gym or at work in the beginning of the year so I have had a bit of down time now and lost some muscle:( But the good thing is it has gotten me back into detailing a bit:)
 

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You sir, should have never left. lol

Think about ONE year ago when there were like 4 regulars on this section lol.
 

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You sir, should have never left. lol

Think about ONE year ago when there were like 4 regulars on this section lol.
I know lol, hell I still remember 3 years ago when it was only Me, Nasty, Zat, James, Zinc, Emay and Handz in here. I would take days some times for one of us to see each others threads and reply lol. Slowly it got it up and running and look it now this section of the forum is actually a section now. I am glad to say I was a part of it in the beginning:drink
 

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Best part of MM is right here IMHO. No drama and doesn't get too homo on this side. Speaking of handz, where has he been?
 

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You'll love the Flex!


Now back on topic I have about half a jar of SV Onyx I'm looking to trade off for something new. Any takers? This is a great wax. Very little goes a long way and looks stunning. Not super long lasting but still a great wax. Purchased in late December of 2012 Used about 15 times.


Chris PM me what you are looking to swap for it or want for it...All my detailing stuff is packed up for the most part sadly...I have a few new waxes that are in a box though...Unpacking this weekend though
 
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