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On my '96 GT im doing a PI head and intake swap with comp stage one XE262AH cams. I have a few other bolt ons and what not, do i NEED a tune? If i go WOT will i lean it out or ruin something? I will be getting it tuned but for the first month it might be un tuned.
 

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yea you need it tuned...if there arnt any dyno shops near you call bama or tricktuners to write you a tune for it. You would be leaving so much power untouched if you didnt. and at $100 bucks for a tune why not?
 

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yea you need it tuned...if there arnt any dyno shops near you call bama or tricktuners to write you a tune for it. You would be leaving so much power untouched if you didnt. and at $100 bucks for a tune why not?
I dont have a tuner, so it will be around 500$ to get one to my door, but i will be getting it tuned. In the mean time though will it hurt the car if i rev it up to 5000? I want to have some fun with it in the mean time but i dont want to cause damage. I figured just running higher octane to prevent detonation might help.
 

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idk the answer to that, if it was me i wouldnt trust it without the tune. if you scope the classifieds i got mine for 200 unlocked and il be ordering a tune from joe at tricktuners here in the next month after i put my cams in so it is only costing me 300 total.
 

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no need to be, just make sure its unlocked. If they send you a picture showing its unlocked it should also say how many unlocks are left. the average price is around 200 for a used tuner so look to pay around that.
 

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no need to be, just make sure its unlocked. If they send you a picture showing its unlocked it should also say how many unlocks are left. the average price is around 200 for a used tuner so look to pay around that.
You'll be fine those cams won't take you out of your fuel capabilities, my friend ran his 00 in tuned with those cams for months with zero issues.... He made 270 tuned btw
Repped both of you, thanks for the fast and helpful responses. :yes
 

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Are you doing springs?
No, not with a mild cam like this. I have a set of PI springs with about 30k miles on them i'll be using. I have a set of PI windsor heads ill do a mild port job on with a PI intake as well. Rebuilding my t45 with carbon fiber syncros and a brass syncro for reverse. Bolt on wise i have suspension done, 3.73s, short throw shifter, spec stage one clutch, CAI, tires and some other misolanious things. I'm aiming for 280 to the wheels on a tune.
 

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I feel like that is possible if u throw a set of long tubes on there.... Perfect time to do it to while you are at the heads.
 

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Its possible to get 280 Idk with those cams tho my friend that ran those had every bolt on in the book and 373s dyno he only did 270 on a dynojet and 290 torque it was on a 00 gt to
I agree. With simply PI heads, intake, and stage 1 cam, you wont get to 280whp. You may see 250-255, I'd bet. Remember, gears, suspension, etc have no effect on a dyno, only on track times. With LTs, you may get closer to 270
 

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Its possible to get 280 Idk with those cams tho my friend that ran those had every bolt on in the book and 373s dyno he only did 270 on a dynojet and 290 torque it was on a 00 gt to
I'm wondering if the compression bump will help much at all.

I feel like that is possible if u throw a set of long tubes on there.... Perfect time to do it to while you are at the heads.
I would but thats another 1k i dont have, between long tubes and a catted mid pipe for emissions. It's on the list though, it will be done at some point.

I agree. With simply PI heads, intake, and stage 1 cam, you wont get to 280whp. You may see 250-255, I'd bet. Remember, gears, suspension, etc have no effect on a dyno, only on track times. With LTs, you may get closer to 270
Yeah i understand that, as long as im above 250 to the wheels ill be happy, but id like to see 280. We're speaking after being tuned that is.
 

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yea long tubes are expensive..if i had to do it over again i wouldnt have gone with flowtech, the fitment is terrible so make sure you get a decent brand. I definitely felt a difference before and after (i did pi intake LT, and X pipe @the same time).
 

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I'm wondering if the compression bump will help much at all.

it should everyone seems to think really high but in reality it wont be more then 5hp. It will give a stronger powerband tho.
I think it will be about 10-15. Its 10.5cc vs 18.5cc. I guess we'll find out though, as long as it has more power then my NPI engine right now. :lol
 
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