Well FYI I have shorties already lol...i have 2 mid pipes both BBK one offroad and one catted (for the e-test). I had these pipe long before I did the shorties so i figure I would have to go buy 2 more mid pips AND I live in canada where the regulations are pretty strict so I doubt they would test my car with LT's. Anyway I have Magnaflows right now and they are loud and raspy but just not raspy enough lol. I want it dirty, the magnaflows just arent cuttin it for me lol. I found some frand new stainless flows for $100 for the pair so I think im gonna go that route! Anyone have a sound clip??