[navyman8903]

Air to air


or


Air to water



Which is better....and why.......Discuss.

 

[navyman8903]

You may pick two of the above answers

 

[onederful100]

air to water is better, keeps cooler. but at lower boost 12 psi and under, air to air will do just fine.
IIRC, there was an article where JPC racing did a test where the air to air was good up untill a certain boost level, then above that (i think it was 12-14 psi) the air to water was significantly better. this was promoting their new air/water IC for centri blowers

 

[1RápidoZorro]

I vote for air to air for the simplicity and effiency of their designs. Im not putting down ait to water by any means, but if it were my choice when buying a kit I would prefer the air to air.

 

[onederful100]

Installing Air-To-Water Intercooler - Muscle Mustang & Fast Fords Magazine

heres the article about the JPC IC.

 

[navyman8903]

^reps

 

[onederful100]

also, for the track air/water can be flushed and use ice water to cool.

 

[onederful100]

^reps

thanks.

this sort of sums up the JPC test of its air/water vs air/air IC, its from the last page of the article. but this is on a big procharger, running 24 psi, so on a regular streetcar like most of us, results will be different.

On the dyno, Burcham logged the air inlet temperatures and noted the new intercooler chills the air down to just 75 degrees. Multiple back-up runs were made to verify the 101-degree reduction in inlet charge temps; each run was within a few degrees of 75. While the temperature was going down, the horsepower and torque was increasing. At peak, we saw a gain of 44 rwhp and 70 rwtq, thanks to the cooler air and increased ignition timing. The ECU wasn't removing any ignition timing and Burcham even safely added 2 degrees, after checking the spark plugs. The denser air helps keep detonation at bay, thus the ability to increase the timing.

Adding the ice to the cooler is very effective at the track (and dyno) but is debated for street use. Burcham summed it up: "We have toyed with the idea of adding a heat exchanger to keep the water cooler for strictly street cars, much like the Terminator, Shelby GT500, and Lightning vehicles. This application is more for track use, but I usually cruise around in my '05 Mustang GT with the water pump off and the still water keeps the temps at 80-110-depending on the outside temperature and as long as I don't lay into the throttle. When it's time to race, I simply flip the switch and the inlet temp comes down pretty quickly."

In conclusion, the ice/water mixture proved to be very effective on this Mustang thanks to the large blower and big boost. The JPC intercooler was better matched for the power levels of our test vehicle compared to the standard air-to-air intercooler that was on the car. As the blowers and turbos get bigger, so does the task of chilling the boost in order to get the most power out of your Mustang.

 

[Emay]

Depends on application and requirements of said car.

 

[rodeheavers]

air to air is definitaly cheaper and easier to install, the big dogs use the air to water because you can cool is waaaay down and control the temp more.

 

[navyman8903]

Well I am wondering for my S/C because I have to pick one to go with the centri......Paxton novi 2200SL. Or maybe the V-3 vortech with the aftercooler which is air to water. I want something to keep my car from over heating at the track (road course and 1/4mile) and on long gear mashing drives.

Starting with 10psi, then moving to a stroker and possibly topend build.

 

[Nasty]

It's going to be another year before you ever do anything so I chose option three.

 

[onederful100]

It's going to be another year before you ever do anything so I chose option three.

:lol

 

[07 STROKER]

LOL reps ^

 

[Nasty]

Just sayin'..

 

[v606er]

NOOOOOO

Well I voted go **** yourself, because I laughed when I read it, but then I saw I could have picked 2.

I vote air-water, but that's because my jet ski is supercharged with an air- water intercooler.

So it's a little different.

 

[07 Boss]

Air to water with a Killer Chiller. It uses your A/C to cool the intercooler fluid. It's supposed to be a pretty awesome setup.

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[highwayman24]

I can think of so many better mods that are actually worth $800.00... :c/

 

[07 Boss]

I can think of so many better mods that are actually worth $800.00... :c/

Ture, but I was just giving him what I thought would be the best intercooler setup.

 

[1RápidoZorro]

Well I am wondering for my S/C because I have to pick one to go with the centri......Paxton novi 2200SL. Or maybe the V-3 vortech with the aftercooler which is air to water. I want something to keep my car from over heating at the track (road course and 1/4mile) and on long gear mashing drives.

Starting with 10psi, then moving to a stroker and possibly topend build.

I would start with air to air if I were you, then if you find when yuo do the stroker and up the boost it isnt keeping your temps where you want them then swap it over for an air to water setup.