ive done about an hour of searching and all i can find are people arguing about which one is stronger. i just want to know which of the two is stronger and can take more of a beating basically. on the track its going to be used mainly in 2nd gear and higher rpm's unless its the bigger course then i will be in 3rd most of the time.
However, I am putting 430 through my 3650 and no problems so far... wouldn't necessarily say I feel comfortable doing it though... and defiantly don't beat it up at the track hardly ever.
They both have their gains and their faults. As 0949er stated neither of them are truly meant for the track but my 3650 has been beaten drifting and road racing and still is strong as hell.
if you look at the specs the 3650 holds more power, and has less faults. but people will argue either way.
T-45
Shitty inputshaft
shitty synchros
shitty shift forks
shitty selector arms
T-3650
Shitty Input shaft
Shitty synchros
Theres a reason ford switched to a 3650. But in your case i would look at a tko 600.
Yeah. I'd stay away from the T45. I broke my input shaft with 241rwhp/281lb/ft. Granted it had nearly 150k miles on it... I've heard of all sorts of 3650 problems though. For racing use, I'd go for something built a little better than either to be completely honest.
Yeah. I'd stay away from the T45. I broke my input shaft with 241rwhp/281lb/ft. Granted it had nearly 150k miles on it... I've heard of all sorts of 3650 problems though. For racing use, I'd go for something built a little better than either to be completely honest.
I don't pay much attention to the posts because I don't have a 3650, but I see threads pop up regarding problems with that trans more than the T45. It's a terrible rubric for comparison, I'll admit. The main point I was making is that it is probably better to get a dedicated racing transmission, or at least a built one, rather than looking for a used stock tranny.
you will see more 3650 problems in this section as mid 01+ were 3650 whcih leaves 99-mid 01 for teh t-45. I promise you, t-45s have more problems then 3650's.
Mine certainly had plenty. That's why I'm removing it. The T45 was only available 99-01 btw. I guess if that's any indication, even Ford didn't want to use it anymore... I guess the 3650 it is.
yes 99-01 typo in my post. Ive worked on both and the t-45's have weaker parts. theres really not much i can say. I think the problem with failures in either trans is the driver.
Stock T45, basic rebuild with a billet 3/4 shift fork:
Needless to say, I prefer the T45 over the 3650 every time I get a chance. I love them.
There honestly is not a large difference. Some have good luck with each model. Like someone stated above...driver plays a large role. But so does clutch adjustment, which most fail to do correctly.
If you have a rebuilt T45, with upgraded forks...it will last with some decent abuse.
Needless to say, I prefer the T45 over the 3650 every time I get a chance. I love them.
There honestly is not a large difference. Some have good luck with each model. Like someone stated above...drive plays a large role. But so does clutch adjustment, which most failt o do correctly.
If you have a rebuilt T45, with upgraded forks...it will last with some decent abuse.
sure either trans will last with upgrades. like me I twisted my input with 400 ftlbs. upgraded to a 26 spline and i should be good for almost anyting i throw at it.
lol this is true, but the auto is not much stronger. you would roast your tranny if it was all stock. a converter and shift kit add a lot of power potential in an auto. a converter to you is like an input to me. and a shift kit to you is kinda like upgraded synchros for me.
people dont look at it that way, but its true. most jsut think Converter = Faster... when it also means stronger.
"how much would a 26 spline cost? im a nissan guy just i have a love for mustangs lol. im also only looking to put down 350 to the wheels max. i dont need insane gobs of power for a 2300lb car(weighed with ka in it and fully stripped of all un-needed parts)"
I paid $305 plus shipping through Liberty's Gears. Promotion is $395 plus shippping.
I checked a couple of places for 26 spline input shafts for the T-45: One required you to take your input shaft out of your transmission and send it to them for inspection before they would send you a 26 spline input shaft. ProMotion Transmissions said they would sell one for $450 and wanted the 10 spline back as a core charge.
I checked a couple of places for 26 spline input shafts for the T-45: One required you to take your input shaft out of your transmission and send it to them for inspection before they would send you a 26 spline input shaft. ProMotion Transmissions said they would sell one for $450 and wanted the 10 spline back as a core charge.
It's rated to 700lb/ft from the factory though... I know when manuals are rated like that they are usually good to twice the amount, is that not true for the autos?
im using a t45 n never had a problem out of it n ive drifted draged it n everything.. but i did recently rebuild it to withstand serious power.. my 99 gt has 01 cobra engine fully built over 17k in it with around 750hp on bout 12psi n my t45 stands up great
yea as dcook said im not looking for an auto lol only a manual. if i could afford it id buy a dogbox <3 but im poor as f*ck
auto and drifting = boom
lol i blew up my stock auto transmission that came in the car by doing that lmao headgasket was blown so i decided to just beat it til something was dead and it ended up being the tranny regardless of the engine overheating within minutes of starting it hahaha
sure an aftermarket cooler is needed when you start throwing power at her, but imo you need one regardless. Like i said, we'll pick on scott for a sec. if you left your trans bone stock with your new set up youd blow it, hell with your procharger youd probably hurt it over some time.
how did this stray from which transmission would hold up better for a 1-2 event a month drift car with basic bolt ons to something im not even sure about?
i love this forum lol
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