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I hate Trump as an individual. He is arrogant, mostly illiterate on foreign subjects, listens to no one but himself, and obnoxious. I could see myself punching him in the face. But I agree with most of his stated policies.
LOL

Voting based on how someone speaks while being attacked at every angle during a debate that is clearly biased against them, does not make sense.
Well...luckily I'm not voting based on that.

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I have listened to a lot of Obama speeches. I like him as an individual. He is well spoken and when he speaks I find myself agreeing with much of what he says. I could see myself drinking a beer with him. The trouble is the devil is in the details and I disagree with the direction he wants to take the country and most of his policies.
That's because he's a master reptilian brainwasher

 

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The irony of that quote is disturbing. So a guy who might not get things done is worse than electing a president who is paid by the same organizations that fund terrorism, has interests not aligned with the common person, and wants to basically destroy our country by removing borders and importing ghosts. I won't even mention taking our rights away. Oops.

Huh, aint that somethin...
President who is paid by the same organizations that fund terrorism - I'm guessing you are referring to the middle east countries that have given to the Clinton Foundation. I agree it's suspect when these countries give such large amounts of money to the foundation of a person running for president. Your belief is that those "donations" are influencing Ms. Clinton to do their bidding. Your supposition suggests that because of these donations these middle east countries have culled favor with her. Fair enough. As long as we're using the "guilt by association" argument let's turn to Mr. Trumps glorification of Vladimir Putin. His sincere platitudes directed at Mr. Putin are as much if not more suspect in regards to any sort of collusion between him and one of our most hated enemies.

Has interests not aligned with the common person - And you know this how? Let me guess...you're using the attendance at Trumps rallies as a ruler to how the rest of the nation feels about him and Hillary Clinton? Why is it that Republicans are leaving him in droves? Could it be because the majority of their electorate don't want him elected regardless of the fact that he is their standard bearer? I guess we'll see how Clinton does in regards to the election and the votes that the "common person" place......

And wants to basically destroy our country by removing borders and importing ghosts - You seem like a fairly educated guy. I would hope that your level of education would have you researching the red meat that you read online to really see what was said rather than accepting the BS your fed at face value. Clintons comments were directed at open borders in regards to energy. It has nothing to do with immigration but because the phrase "open borders" was spoken by her Republicans thought it would be great red meat to feed to the electorate and get them riled up and in line for their desires.

I'm not sure what you mean by "importing ghosts"....can you explain a little more?

As far as Trump NOT getting the job done, we don't know what he is capable of.
I think a lot of us have a pretty good idea what he is capable of but, more importantly, what he isn't capable of.

It's not fair to ask him to explain plans on a two minute segment of a debate where you are already forced to be on the defensive by the establishment.
So it's OK to do that to Clinton but when it comes to Trump he should get a pass? What it sounds like you're saying is that because he is unprepared and not knowledegable enough on the subject he should not have to tell everyone his thoughts on the question at hand because there are other pressures coming at him on other fronts. I think that in and of itself shows why he is not suitable to become the POTUS. If he can't perform at this level imagine if he gets elected where pressures are hundreds of times more extreme.

If Trump was a polished speaker and wasn't accused of some of the BS he is accused of, you guys would be all over him.
So now the excuse is that because he's not a polished speaker that that somehow gives him a pass. I would think having been the host of a hit TV show like he likes to brag about would afford him the talent that you are claiming he lacks. His problem is not that he isn't a polished speaker. His problem is that he's a narcissistic asshole that has shown at every turn that he lacks the knowledge or temperament for the job.

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@Novanutcase Your posts are laughable sometimes.

Trump has no connections to Putin, but this conspiracy the left has created, much like the birther conspiracy from the Clinton camp on Obama, is running rampant on the internet with zero proof. All of us know this conspiracy was created as a distraction because the left-wing's Emails got hacked and exposed even more of their corruption and criminal activity. :yes

NO, NO, NO, DON"T LOOK AT THE EMAIL'S EXPOSING THE LEFT"S CRIMES AND POLITICAL CORRUPTION, TRUMP IS DOWN WITH RUSSIA AND PUTIN!!!!!! FIRE, FIRE, FIRE, FIRE OVER HERE!!!!!!

You obviously have bought it hook line and sinker, which is comical to me. :lol

Clinton on the other hand, is a proven liar, has been involved in criminal activities that can be verified and some of which she has admitted to, her Corrupt Clinton Foundation Scandals, her running a private Email account with classified documents, The Benghazi Debacle, and Clinton's Role in Arming Jihadists in Libya and Syria, and a list so long YOU wouldn't even read it, but you fixate on Trump grasping at straws via regurgitating conspiracy theories hoping to make him look worse than Clinton. :yes

BTW....

Clinton Helps Russia Gain Control of 20% of All U.S. Uranium

In 2007-08, a Canadian named Ian Telfer, chairman of a South African uranium-mining company called Uranium One, funneled millions of dollars in donations to the Clinton Foundation. In June 2010, the Russian government made an extremely generous offer to Uranium One's shareholders. If the offer were to be accepted, Russia would gain a 51% controlling stake in the company.

But because Uranium One controlled one-fifth of all U.S. uranium reserves — and uranium, a key component in both nuclear energy and nuclear weaponry, is considered a strategic asset with implications for American national security — the deal with Russia could not be permitted without the approval of the American government. Specifically, that approval could be granted only by the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS), which is composed of several of the most powerful members of the cabinet — the Attorney General as well as the Secretaries of Defense, Commerce, Treasury, Homeland Security, Energy, and State. (The latter, of course, was Hillary Clinton.)22

Without the approval of these seven Obama administration officials, Russia's acquisition of Uranium One could not have taken place. All seven, including Hillary Clinton, gave their go-ahead for the deal. As a result, the Russian government took control of fully 20% of all uranium production capacity in the United States.23

In June 2010 — the very month in which the Russian acquisition of Uranium One was approved by the CFIUS — Bill Clinton was invited to speak in Moscow for the astronomical sum of $500,000. Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin personally thanked Mr. Clinton for speaking. And Mr. Clinton's speaking fee was paid by Renaissance Capital, a Russian investment bank with ties to the Kremlin.24

But hey, who cares? At least Hillary Clinton never engaged in crude, private trash talk that was recorded on tape. And all of her disparaging, condescending, hate-soaked, fiction-laced denunciations of her political rivals are delivered in measured, solemn, well-rehearsed tones. And she deeply respects women, including the countless millions whose safety has been placed in jeopardy by permitting American uranium to be gobbled up by a hostile, fascist Russia.

The Clinton Record | Frontpage Mag
In your brain, this makes Clinton a Russian operative for Putin, right? :lol

 

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First off Trump doesn't say "Bigly". He says "Big League". Second I do find it disturbing that some on here seem to think the situation the Country is facing is a joke. If you can't form the opinion that the media and entire political system is corrupt from what we have learned during this process you are an idiot in my opinion.

Your opinion of Trump had no bearing on the fact Hillary Clinton shouldn't even be a candidate. To focus on Trump's lack of polished speaking in a debate and forget about the piece of **** he is debating/running against shows the mentality.

It's a lot easier to sit in the middle and criticize saying you will either sit in your truck while your spouse votes or vote for 3rd, 4th or write in candidate who isn't even in the game.


The issue this country is facing IS a joke. We live in a republic where we have a pretty decent amount of sway into who it is we elect, and the country is in a bitter argument of who would be the worse ****ing candidate, minus the fringe of the county like yourself who actually feels either candidate is a good one. I plop you right in the same demographic as my idiot friends who say Hillary will be a great President.

You say I'm taking the easy way? Yeah, I absolutely agree. It's much easier when you're arguing for what you believe versus bending your beliefs to cope with the candidate you're backing in the name of defeating the other. I'm not sitting this election out. I feel it's your duty as an American to go spend a few minutes to vote. Just because you don't like my choice, it doesn't mean my vote is any less important. At the end of the day, we're both voting for people who have no ****ing chance. The difference is one of us see's that, and the other doesn't. It's cool because I'm a prick and will be giving you copious amounts of crow to eat after the fact.

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The Communist Party USA is against Trump, so that's enough for me to vote for him!
lol

I remember when you took that tough stance against voting for the lesser evil... That didn't even make it one ****ing election. Just don't cry about the democrats who are doing the same thing you are for the next 4 years.
 

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I remember when you took that tough stance against voting for the lesser evil... That didn't even make it one ****ing election. Just don't cry about the democrats who are doing the same thing you are for the next 4 years.
Had they at least put someone better than Clinton up on the Dem ticket, I could sit this one out and not worry about it.

But clearly Trump is a better, safer choice for freedom, liberty, our economy, border security, etc.

He might not be the constitutional libertarian I dream of, but I can live with that lesser evil. :yes
 

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Had they at least put someone better than Clinton up on the Dem ticket, I could sit this one out and not worry about it.

But clearly Trump is a better, safer choice for freedom, liberty, our economy, border security, etc.

He might not be the constitutional libertarian I dream of, but I can live with that lesser evil. :yes
Whatever dude. You'd have voted for him regardless of who the Democratic candidate was. You have a constitutional libertarian available to vote for and you're choosing a RINO, something you've bitched about for years, instead. Do you think Gary Johnson represents my Socialist, God hating, baby eating ideals? **** no dude. I disagree with quite a few of his beliefs, but he sure as hell is a better candidate than The Donald or Hillary and I won't have to gurgle listerine for a week after the fact from throwing up knowing I voted for Donald Trump and he lost anyway.
 

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@Novanutcase Your posts are laughable sometimes.
I'm glad I can return some of the comic relief you've provided me for all these years!:grin2:

Trump has no connections to Putin,
Oh right! Trump said he doesn't know the man so it must be true.....oh wait....but there are recordings of him boasting about how buddy buddy he and Putin are....hmmmmm

but this conspiracy the left has created, much like the birther conspiracy from the Clinton camp on Obama
I can say that this has been debunked multiple times but since Breitbart and the echo chamber you live in say it is then it must be true

All of us know this conspiracy was created as a distraction because the left-wing's Emails got hacked and exposed even more of their corruption and criminal activity. :yes
Which right wing conspiracy are you referring too? You've introduced so many on here I'm confused to which one you are referring to.


Clinton on the other hand, is a proven liar, has been involved in criminal activities that can be verified and some of which she has admitted to, her Corrupt Clinton Foundation Scandals, her running a private Email account with classified documents, The Benghazi Debacle, and Clinton's Role in Arming Jihadists in Libya and Syria, and a list so long YOU wouldn't even read it, but you fixate on Trump grasping at straws via regurgitating conspiracy theories hoping to make him look worse than Clinton. :yes
Yet she is about to become the POTUS.....how does a criminal like that make it into office? As far as the lying thing I could post numerous videos of Trump lying his ass off. As far as her foundation no one has been indicted from it, the FBI has cleared her of any wrongdoing, 8 committees including the republican witchhunt have exonerated her guilt, I still haven't seen any actual proof of her involvement so please enlighten me with CREDIBLE sources........

In your brain, this makes Clinton a Russian operative for Putin, right? :lol

You make this out as if she was alone in this decision. There were other government departments that were involved but, again, because money was given to the foundation then she must be guilty so, yes, going by your yardstick Trumps association with Putin is suspect in the same way Clintons association with the Uranium One deal makes her guilty by your measure. The big difference is she isn't talking about dismantling NATO or praising Putin.

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President who is paid by the same organizations that fund terrorism - I'm guessing you are referring to the middle east countries that have given to the Clinton Foundation. I agree it's suspect when these countries give such large amounts of money to the foundation of a person running for president. Your belief is that those "donations" are influencing Ms. Clinton to do their bidding. Your supposition suggests that because of these donations these middle east countries have culled favor with her. Fair enough. As long as we're using the "guilt by association" argument let's turn to Mr. Trumps glorification of Vladimir Putin. His sincere platitudes directed at Mr. Putin are as much if not more suspect in regards to any sort of collusion between him and one of our most hated enemies.

Has interests not aligned with the common person - And you know this how? Let me guess...you're using the attendance at Trumps rallies as a ruler to how the rest of the nation feels about him and Hillary Clinton? Why is it that Republicans are leaving him in droves? Could it be because the majority of their electorate don't want him elected regardless of the fact that he is their standard bearer? I guess we'll see how Clinton does in regards to the election and the votes that the "common person" place......

And wants to basically destroy our country by removing borders and importing ghosts - You seem like a fairly educated guy. I would hope that your level of education would have you researching the red meat that you read online to really see what was said rather than accepting the BS your fed at face value. Clintons comments were directed at open borders in regards to energy. It has nothing to do with immigration but because the phrase "open borders" was spoken by her Republicans thought it would be great red meat to feed to the electorate and get them riled up and in line for their desires.

I'm not sure what you mean by "importing ghosts"....can you explain a little more?



I think a lot of us have a pretty good idea what he is capable of but, more importantly, what he isn't capable of.



So it's OK to do that to Clinton but when it comes to Trump he should get a pass? What it sounds like you're saying is that because he is unprepared and not knowledegable enough on the subject he should not have to tell everyone his thoughts on the question at hand because there are other pressures coming at him on other fronts. I think that in and of itself shows why he is not suitable to become the POTUS. If he can't perform at this level imagine if he gets elected where pressures are hundreds of times more extreme.



So now the excuse is that because he's not a polished speaker that that somehow gives him a pass. I would think having been the host of a hit TV show like he likes to brag about would afford him the talent that you are claiming he lacks. His problem is not that he isn't a polished speaker. His problem is that he's a narcissistic asshole that has shown at every turn that he lacks the knowledge or temperament for the job.

John
To be honest with you beyond saying I dislike Clinton I haven't critiqued her debate tactics. Is she more articulate in front of a crowd than Trump? Yes but she also appears to be very rehearsed and fake. I didn't think she put any viable plans on the table during any debate. She doesn't get a pass. The truth is neither candidate can produce what people say they want to hear in the time given. Media and social media have ruined the debate process forever in my opinion by causing distractions. In Clinton's case she should have never been able to run with her track record. People aren't making decisions on what is said by the candidate.

There has been a lot of pushback against police on here especially questioning honesty and integrity. How does it make you feel that me being a run of the mill Patrol Sergeant is held to a higher standard than any Presidential candidate? I took a polygraph examination, a complete psychological examination, medical examination, criminal record and background check, credit check, interviews, tests etc to be able to take this job. Clinton wouldn't even make it past the first step of our hiring process. She would be flushed like the turd that she is. Not saying Trump would make it either but he would have a better chance.

As far as voting I respect people can make the decisions they want. I'm voting Trump. Is he a crap shoot......maybe. The only other option for people that I personally would have no issue with would be not voting at all(T.Lee ;), or voting a third party. Anybody who votes Clinton, while I respect their right to choose who they support, I personally have no use for them.

There are so many WOMEN who are blinded by the women's right aspect of Clinton being the 1st female President they don't care about anything else. Some idiotic comments and thoughts these women have. One women posted because Hillary hung around talking to people after the 3rd debate, "She is really one of us". It is well documented that Hillary is one of the biggest Cunts in politics. She is even hated by the Secret Service who protects her. My father used to run a few different airports and he had contact with several Presidents. He said the Bushes were very friendly, thankful, and cordial. He dealt with Hillary Clinton a few times and said she wouldn't make eye contact, or talk to anybody. He said one trip she showed up with an ankle length black overcoat with a gold serpent design running from the neck to the bottom. He said she was a total privileged bitch. When Trump says she is a "Nasty Woman", he isn't lying.
 

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Whatever dude. You'd have voted for him regardless of who the Democratic candidate was. You have a constitutional libertarian available to vote for and you're choosing a RINO, something you've bitched about for years, instead. Do you think Gary Johnson represents my Socialist, God hating, baby eating ideals? **** no dude. I disagree with quite a few of his beliefs, but he sure as hell is a better candidate than The Donald or Hillary and I won't have to gurgle listerine for a week after the fact from throwing up knowing I voted for Donald Trump and he lost anyway.
Nope. :no

I'm forced in to voting for Trump because of the dangers that incompetent criminal Clinton presents.

Otherwise, I'd vote my conscience and pull the lever for Rand Paul via write-in.

Rand Paul was my #1 choice. He clearly is not going to win, so I'm not wasting my time nor helping Clinton win by doing so.

Writing him (or any other libertarian) in and would be a complete waste of time because he has ZERO chance of winning.
 
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