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I never said they were the best news station nor did I say they were perfect. I don't always agree either, but they aren't pushed around.


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Let us go back to the Bush era? Fox News was on the conservative nutsack of guys like Bush and Rumsfeld just like liberal news stations like MSNBC are all over Obama's dick. It is literally the exact same bullshit, just swap out the players.

Fox News Mentality:
 

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I vote we make every effort to help diffuse the situation - short of another armed conflict. The USS Nimitz and its escorts cost $25 million a week just to be there - another $30 million per week if they're fighting - and every cruise missile is another $1.5 million up in smoke. I don't mean to seem unsympathetic to victims of the conflict, but we have financial problems here at home. We can still use our influence to be the "beacon of light" and such, but in my opinion, we just can't afford to police the world at gunpoint. The last thing we need is to spend another trillion dollars on a foreign war. JMO
 

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Yeah, but Bush was a warmonger who was there for oil, and Biden's position just "evolved." :lol (much like Obama's position on the same topic, or his position on the debt...)

Maybe some cruise missiles is Biden's national security equivalent of rocking off a few shots from a shotgun into the air? :hidinghere:
 

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Funding is one thing. That happens everyday and has been for decades. We fund one, they fund the other. That doesnt worry me. Im just saying that there are alot of people that get really dramatic and scared over the position with Russia. It causes paralysis. We can't let that happen. My thought is that Putin and the Russians will not make a direct attack on anything of ours. Putin is a little crazy and off but thats what he wants people to think. He will not attack America over Syria.
 

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The same News station in which an anchor said that 250k a year for a family of four is on the verge of poverty, but that $7.25 an hour is a totally livable wage.
Lol and smh... That's funny but not funny at the same time!
 

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REPS!

I never said they were the best news station nor did I say they were perfect. I don't always agree either, but they aren't pushed around.


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...which is more than anyone can say of the good ol' U.S. of A. :(

Funding is one thing. That happens everyday and has been for decades. We fund one, they fund the other. That doesnt worry me. Im just saying that there are alot of people that get really dramatic and scared over the position with Russia. It causes paralysis. We can't let that happen. My thought is that Putin and the Russians will not make a direct attack on anything of ours. Putin is a little crazy and off but thats what he wants people to think. He will not attack America over Syria.
Isn't there a quote about the best leader of any country keeping his (or her) enemies and allies guessing if he (or she) is just a little crazy? I can't remember who said it, but it really is true. Like, for instance, two leaders of ours, who were on opposite ends of the political spectrum, JFK and Reagan. Neither were quite crazy enough to actually go head to head with the Evil Empire and risk nuclear war... were they? And that's what won them respect. When they said something, they did it. When they set a standard, they held the country and themselves to it (well, as much as a politician can, LOL), and when they were faced with horrific odds against a truly daunting enemy, they had enough rapport and reputation so that when they said, "We will nuke the hell outta you if you cross this line," their enemies said, "Nawww, he won't do that... ... ... will he?" Unfortunately, the roles are reversed now, and the whole world is guessing, but not about our President, no, but about Putin, and Al Assad, and the Muslim Brotherhood. They won't really try that... ... ... will they? When our President threatens, the rest of the world just kinda chuckles and says, "Aww, look at that, those idiots are fluffing their feathers." There is something to say about experience in the field.
 

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It doesn't matter that it was on fox news. But its funny how fast some discredit it just because of the media its posted by. There is very good points in there. If it was on CNN would that have made it more credible? Gimmie a break. It doesn't matter where the facts came from. Because the fact is, that they are all true statements. I tend to avoid Fox too because of the bias and generally read USA today. However this shows a good representation of the BS and rampant prejudice in America. Facts can be presented and if that person does not like the source they came from they are passed off as garbage.

Instead of judging the source it came from why don't you try to pick apart the facts presented? Because you can't, instead you pi k apart the source. Welcome to America.

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Perhaps my favorite quote of the address. "They are in a civil war! They've ordered and killed women, children by all means including full on executions. 100,000 people have been killed, but now allegedly 14,000 have been killed by chemical weapons, and we suddenly need to get involved. Mr President, what makes it alright to kill 100,000 people one way but not another way?"

How can you argue that? They have been doing it for years and Obama hasn't said a word or hasn't thought about intervening at least. But as soon as he gets some questionable at best intelligence that chemical weapons were used to to kill 1% of the people killed it suddenly turns into something we need to get involved in. Are you ****ing kidding me?
 

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Yeah, but Bush was a warmonger who was there for oil, and Biden's position just "evolved." :lol (much like Obama's position on the same topic, or his position on the debt...)

Maybe some cruise missiles is Biden's national security equivalent of rocking off a few shots from a shotgun into the air? :hidinghere:
Here a good article that came out a week or so ago examining how some of Obamas principles have "evolved".

SPIN METER: Obama on use of US military might Evansville Courier & Press
 

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For the record, I agree with you both of. It is ridiculously bias to the point it barely tolerable but there are some factual points to it.
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It doesn't matter that it was on fox news. But its funny how fast some discredit it just because of the media its posted by. There is very good points in there. If it was on CNN would that have made it more credible? Gimmie a break. It doesn't matter where the facts came from. Because the fact is, that they are all true statements.
Who discredited it? I thought some ppl pointed out the bias in the source but then noted that there were some factual points. Maybe I'm misreading that. But on that note that goes both ways if someone post up something from MSNBC relating to President Obama quite a few ppl will automatically discredit it. Why is that bc of the source and how biased it is so there is two sides to that coin imo.
 

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I know I tend to pick on the bias of a lot of those articles because most of them are opinion pieces and lack much factual basis ( if any ). In which case it is easy to discredit an article from MSNBC or Fox. This one had more factual basis than most which is why I pointed that out.
 

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Funding is one thing. That happens everyday and has been for decades. We fund one, they fund the other. That doesnt worry me. Im just saying that there are alot of people that get really dramatic and scared over the position with Russia. It causes paralysis. We can't let that happen. My thought is that Putin and the Russians will not make a direct attack on anything of ours. Putin is a little crazy and off but thats what he wants people to think. He will not attack America over Syria.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...exactly how Russia is playing this

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Did I ever say there wasn't two sides? Nope I didn't. I agree there is bias and I was commenting on the fact that people use their biases to throw things out instead of looking at the facts. The only person that said they had some good points was 1FF. There was others that started posting things about fox news being biased. One person even said that they would expect fox news to say something like that. Like what? Say facts?

Would you agree or not agree that there is a huge double standard here? If Romney would have been President right now and was tossing around the idea of sending cruise missiles into Syria the democrats would be up in arms, protesting and parading the streets about how Republicans are war mongers. Democrats voted him in because he was anti war, or so he said. I know that wasn't the only reason he was voted in but it was a large contributing factor. And now he's talking about starting a conflict with a country that poses now immediate threat to us at all. Where are all these people that voted him in for being anti war? They should be protesting now because their President is wanting to go to war when he said he wouldn't. Instead they are supporting him yet again, blindly following their leader right off a cliff. Its funny to me how some people have engrossed their selves so deep into everything that is President Obama. He knows this obviously, and uses it to his advantage to pass anything he wants to.

Kind of like Obama care that's going to start next month at sending fines to Americans that don't have health insurance. They can't afford insurance so they don't have it. "I know how to fix that!" Fine them! That'll teach them that they need it....no. If you can't afford it before a fine what makes you able to afford it after you've been fined? His policies and politics are mind boggling stupid. Now he has even lost all of Americas credibility as a super power in this world. We are now a laughing stock for the world to poke fun at, because they know Obama is a blow hard that Wong do anything. ****, he doesn't even care about his own people. Why the hell does he try to make it look like he cares about the people of Syria? He doesn't, he wants their oil and that's it. He didn't give a **** when the first 100,000 people where killed, why all of the sudden does he care when a small fraction of them were allegedly killed by chemical weapons? He still doesn't, but he saw it as an excuse to get all of his supporters to back him at using force to go in and get what he wants.
 

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend...exactly how Russia is playing this

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Tough to play that from our side. Do we support the despot that has chemical weapons and is generally in bed with our enemies, or do we support the rebels that are heavily backed by al qaeda, who we've been fighting for decades? As far as we're concerned, there are no friends there.

Other interesting takes on why Russia values Syria so very much-
It's not just a strategic base and huge weapons market for them. It's about gas. Gulf states are backing the opposition because having a friendly government would allow them to finally build a gas pipeline to the Mediterranean and Europe. Right now, guess who has a stranglehold on gas supplies to eastern Europe? Russia's state owned gazprom, who they have effectively wielded as a weapon by threatening to turn off the gas.

Assad in power is good business for Russia.
 

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There are a certain percentage of the voters who would follow Obama through the gates of hell. Liberal media will always cast him in a positive light; conservative media in a negative light. Partisanship over all. If Obama wanted to bomb Canada, some percentage of Americans would support him ... along with Keith Olberman and Rachel Maddow, of course.
 

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Would you agree or not agree that there is a huge double standard here? If Romney would have been President right now and was tossing around the idea of sending cruise missiles into Syria the democrats would be up in arms, protesting and parading the streets about how Republicans are war mongers. Democrats voted him in because he was anti war, or so he said. I know that wasn't the only reason he was voted in but it was a large contributing factor. And now he's talking about starting a conflict with a country that poses now immediate threat to us at all. Where are all these people that voted him in for being anti war? They should be protesting now because their President is wanting to go to war when he said he wouldn't. Instead they are supporting him yet again, blindly following their leader right off a cliff.
So you are saying that President has national support and full support in Congress from Democrats on this situation? From what I have been seeing that is far from the case, but maybe I missed something and recently something happened that Democrats got behind this effort 100%. Is that the case is it something that I missed. Last I checked quite a few dems and repubs didn't support this effort.
 

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We should enact a law that states those who choose to go to war must go in with the marines
 

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So you are saying that President has national support and full support in Congress from Democrats on this situation? From what I have been seeing that is far from the case, but maybe I missed something and recently something happened that Democrats got behind this effort 100%. Is that the case is it something that I missed. Last I checked quite a few dems and repubs didn't support this effort.
What other bombings did Obama have support from congress before moving forward?

 

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WOW! Imagine that. Of all the news tabloid shows....FOX talking crap about Obama! Unheard of.......:lmao

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It doesn't deflect from the facts. :no

And of course MSNBC and CNN wouldn't ever grill Obama because they're on the same team and get their talking points from the Whitehouse anyway. :thumb:

Only time they will say anything against Obama is on the rare occasion he does something the liberal left, Progressives Dems & Reps, or Socialists don't like. :lol
 
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