500hp?

87merkur · Jul 6, 2008

this has proablly been asked a million times but is it possible from a 5.0
(302) engine? I was gonna supercharge running about 10lbs. put the i beleave e303 cam?(the one they use for supercharger setups) and a cobra upper and lower in take. Then prob a limited slip 3.73 gear ratio in rear. Would that get me close to 500 at the wheels? On that list of upgrades is a full motor rebuild but i wanna blow it up first i think theres like 131xxx on my motor now not sure? previous owner didnt know eather. it reads 31xxx though but idc. I wanna blow it up. My trans is also messin up tooo...it likes to throw itself outta 1st gear so i take of in 2nd....1st gears over rated.

if ne one can help or give thare opion it would be gr8....idc if u even call me stupid?

Sleeper_Stang_89 · Jul 6, 2008

what supercharger... and more like 400+... 500 hp at the wheels is a lot man...maybe if you run more than 10lbs of boost...

87merkur · Jul 6, 2008

prob a vortech? besides less boost= more power

at least thas wat i just read in the article out of the muscle mustangs&fast fords?

Sleeper_Stang_89 · Jul 6, 2008

? never heard that... but i could be wrong... if so someone here will chime in...

Iownastang · Jul 6, 2008

87merkur said:
prob a vortech? besides less boost= more power

at least thas wat i just read in the article out of the muscle mustangs&fast fords?

you have got to be shitting me

It also depends on how efficient the blower is at higher boost levels.

notchabovechevy · Jul 6, 2008

f cam would probably be better (even better have one cut) do you mean turbo's made more power at lower boost? or less boost means more power if your engine flows better and can consume more air therefore making less back pressure?

r.barn · Jul 6, 2008

Turbo will get you there better than an s/c will.

Guy corral just made 488rwhp on stock block with Twistedwedge heads
and same cam and intake you have. At 10psi with Mustang Turbo Kits turbo kit.

btw: 500rwhp is pushing limits of block, but can be done.

MustangMatt96GT · Jul 6, 2008

r.barn said:
btw: 500rwhp is pushing limits of block, but can be done.

yeah start with a better foundation. work your way up

JBIGBOOTSY · Jul 6, 2008

r.barn said:
Turbo will get you there better than an s/c will.

Guy corral just made 488rwhp on stock block with Twistedwedge heads
and same cam and intake you have. At 10psi with Mustang Turbo Kits turbo kit.

btw: 500rwhp is pushing limits of block, but can be done.

Nitrous will get you there best, and cheaper.

Dynos vary, but a boosted 5.0 will usually can go past the 500hp voodoo point with no problems.

r.barn · Jul 6, 2008

JBIGBOOTSY said:
Nitrous will get you there best, and cheaper.

Dynos vary, but a boosted 5.0 will usually can go past the 500hp voodoo point with no problems.

Sure, I've got a bud in Dallas making 790rwhp on a stock block.
Lasted 2 seasons of hard 1/8th mile racing ......... so far...........:tomato

JBIGBOOTSY · Jul 6, 2008

r.barn said:
Sure, I've got a bud in Dallas making 790rwhp on a stock block.
Lasted 2 seasons of hard 1/8th mile racing ......... so far...........:tomato

I hear that, THATS pushing it. I always try to bring up the magic 500 block splitting number, cause some guys new to the 5.0 game usually have a common misconception that the block splits at HP on every engine, Ive seen a low HP block fail, and a few 600+hp blocks last.

White Thunder · Jul 6, 2008

stroke it and have a fresh engine..... and spend the extra bucks and get a custom grind cam

nolife · Jul 6, 2008

87merkur said:
prob a vortech? besides less boost= more power

at least thas wat i just read in the article out of the muscle mustangs&fast fords?

I did not read the article but that makes sense. Boost is not a measure of flow or volume of air. It is the build up of air in the intake. It is a useless reading for comparing changes or different engine combinations. To get something more useful for comparison purposes, you should rig something up to the MAS and correct for temperature maybe to read out air flow readings.
If you can generate 14# with stock E7 heads, you may only make 10# with some decent flowing AFR's but you will have a lot more air flow and a lot more power. The reason is the air flow has less restriction and does not build up in the intake system creating that higher boost measurement, it actually flows into the cylinders allowing you to add more fuel and make more power. A lot of the specifics depends on the operating range of the SC like Iownastang said.
Think of blood pressure. Clogged arteries is a smaller path for blood to flow, with the smaller path, blood pressure goes up but overall there is a reduction in blood flow.

83fox · Jul 7, 2008

maybe i heard wrong, but i thought the cobra intake was only good untill 300 hp?

id go with a trick flow or edelbrock intake if i was going to spend the money on another intake

87merkur · Jul 7, 2008

the article basically says that if u turbo something or s/c something to dial it in at 1 set psi rating in example 10psi (on a completly stock motor) then start upgrading (heads cam intake etc.) When they put the heads on the stock motor it lowerd there boost by 1.5 or so but gave them more hp. same w/cam and intake. the lbs of bosst changes but not by much. SO in a sense less is more?

thas pretty much wat they explained in it. in a nutshell.

fastpoknee · Jul 7, 2008

I know a little power adder goes a long way

cptkng79 · Jul 7, 2008

i made 519 hp and 490 torque to the tires with a 347 stroked running 9 psi
with a cobra upper and lower

sgrcltpunk · Jul 7, 2008

87merkur said:
prob a vortech? besides less boost= more power

at least thas wat i just read in the article out of the muscle mustangs&fast fords?

um more boost= more power cause basically more boost = more compression
get a twin screw s/c or a twin turbo

87merkur · Jul 8, 2008

cptkng79 said:
i made 519 hp and 490 torque to the tires with a 347 stroked running 9 psi
with a cobra upper and lower

supecharged or t/c?

1slo5.0 · Jul 8, 2008

87merkur said:
this has proablly been asked a million times but is it possible from a 5.0
(302) engine? I was gonna supercharge running about 10lbs. put the i beleave e303 cam?(the one they use for supercharger setups) and a cobra upper and lower in take. Then prob a limited slip 3.73 gear ratio in rear. Would that get me close to 500 at the wheels? On that list of upgrades is a full motor rebuild but i wanna blow it up first i think theres like 131xxx on my motor now not sure? previous owner didnt know eather. it reads 31xxx though but idc. I wanna blow it up. My trans is also messin up tooo...it likes to throw itself outta 1st gear so i take of in 2nd....1st gears over rated.

if ne one can help or give thare opion it would be gr8....idc if u even call me stupid?

500hp with a power adder is easy with a 302.

87merkur said:
prob a vortech? besides less boost= more power

at least thas wat i just read in the article out of the muscle mustangs&fast fords?

False!

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