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The easiest way to make 400 up na is wait till the new 4v 5.0 is out and swap one in and put a cai and tune with it and hand the new camaro it's ass
So you are predicting that there is a new 5.0 4v and that it will make 400rwhp with a cai and tune? I hope you are right. Cuase that means in takin one to 500rwhp all motor.
 
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14? Ok, that's impressive. My own son started early. I guess the only thing further I can say is be careful what you regurgitate, and think clearly before leaping to conclusions. I mean, it seem like you were setup in that post. You have to understand what lift is before thinking that just more lift is "better". Did you know that lift is the rocker arm ratio x camshaft lobe lift. And rocker arm ratio is...? See what I mean? And just looking it up doesn't mean it's easy to understand. There are some cool engine modeling software programs that let you do "what-if" and visualize exactly what some of these things are.

Anyhow, didn't mean to lecture. At 14 I'm glad you're interested in cars and will drop into the driver seat in a few years with some good background knowledge and be a step up on others your age.

Thanks for the compliment, I really try to learn this stuff, but at the same time tell others what I've learned in aspiration of helping them/showing them how they helped me. I never said more lift is better though, it just usually seems to produce more HP at higher levels based off of seeing cam specs and the HP gains of different cam specs.

You have the right to what you said, don't worry, you're actually helping me out more than anything. ;)

And when I say my age, I'm not trying to say since I'm young, don't say this or that to me, I'm just letting you guys be able to remember I'm only 14, so you can't expect me to know everything.
 
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That rumor has been around for awhile now, but I am confident that the mustang will bear that engine. I wonder if they will actually be able to pull off 400HP out of a 5.0 while leaving room for a large amount of aftermarket capability(at least 100HP or more out of Full exhaust, full bolt on's, heads, and cams)
 
That rumor has been around for awhile now, but I am confident that the mustang will bear that engine. I wonder if they will actually be able to pull off 400HP out of a 5.0 while leaving room for a large amount of aftermarket capability(at least 100HP or more out of Full exhaust, full bolt on's, heads, and cams)
anything is possible with the amount of time and effort put into it... it won't be right away, but after 2 production years people will have some grinds coming out
 
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If it were me, I wouldn't buy a 5.0 until the mod market had a variety of parts available. When you think about it, people are now using better technology which can help create parts quicker and more efficiently, so maybe the mod market will come out faster than the 3v's, but then again it sounds like a whole new engine and not a stroked 4.6 4V
 
I would buy a 5.0 in a heart beat.

and punch/stroke it 347 and solid roller it
 
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God that'd be sick. Oh, and for anyone who wants to see the mods JDM's car had when it ran 11.15, here:

298 stroker shortblock
CNC ported 3V heads
Comp stage 3 SPR cams
WMS ram air intake
GT500 throttle body
IMRC deletes
Autolite HTO plugs
Saleen underdrive pulleys
Kooks headers and catless X pipe
Aluminum driveshaft
TCI converter
4.56 gears with True trac
Bogart 15" front and rear
Mickey Thompson 275/60/15 Drag radials
Saleen Springs
Rear QA 1 shocks
Instant Center brackets
GT500 lower control arms

This car dynoed at 390rwhp, so now I fully believe dyno's are just a tuning tool.
 
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Yep they said around 390 with those exact performance mods, that mod list was out of a PM from JimIII on ModularFords. They were planning on putting a C&L Manifold on to hit 10's, but NOOO they had to go damn FI. Ugh there is no N/A setup below 11.6's RUNNING in my knowledge as of now. The motor is out of the car and sold now.
 
I was about to say if they used the same motor for FI it was a low compression motor and THAT might explain a little bit why it made such low numbers. Hell I dunno.

I do know there might be one more guy on the road to 400 N/A here pretty soon.
 
I really dont think the compression would have alot to do with that though. I mean yeah it would play a decent factor into it but not THAT bad.

Has anyone heard anything on that 323 N/A motor Livernois built????
 
that will be the shortblock ill be saving up for 323 stroker damn thats gonna be sexy lol

323 stroker
Stage 2 heads
SPR stage 2's

with the rest of the mods....equates to HOLY ****
 
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I really dont think the compression would have alot to do with that though. I mean yeah it would play a decent factor into it but not THAT bad.

Has anyone heard anything on that 323 N/A motor Livernois built????
Nope not since they posted pics of the engine in the car with wiring needed to be hooked up. I heard they are doing extensive tuning on it to perfect it because of all of the modifications put on at once.
 
ohhhhhh I see now. That means they are having tuning problems with the car haha.

Because if the "put so many mods on at once" thing was true, how can a person go from a stock car to a built motor with a procharger on it and have it tuned in a couple of hours?!?
 
I like mickey, but it makes my point. No times in his sig. When all you have is a dyno sheet, you gotta defend it like its the gospel.
Say what you want Rich, I put the ****ing blower on 20 days ago and was gone for 11 of them...oh ya, let me drive to the 1/4 strip real quick (nice and easy 3 hr drive from me). You need to step back and look at reality for a second. I know your 11 second pass only boosted your **** talking about blown stangs. And you can come on here and say what you will about that, but it's a fact, you love to talk **** about blown cars. Now I don't know about you, but my car is ****ing fun as hell. It drives on the street 99% of the time, so why would I care as much what it does at the track? Just curious as to why that is so damn important to you considering you car doesn't even hit the strip once a week. Relax dude, the "rich way" isn't always the best way...

BTW: you have spent more than me on your car modding :D and I guarantee mine is more fun to drive
 
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ohhhhhh I see now. That means they are having tuning problems with the car haha.

Because if the "put so many mods on at once" thing was true, how can a person go from a stock car to a built motor with a procharger on it and have it tuned in a couple of hours?!?
Because this is a new combo for them, and they have not done similar tuning to a different car before.

And Mickey, track numbers are IMO only important if you want to have something to brag about that your car did, OR if you are really into drag racing and have a goal. I really think dyno numbers shouldn't be used as a bragging stat because a dyno is just a tuning tool. Sure show them off, but don't act like they are amazingly important.

Edit: silverstang, read this: "Stroker plus overbore plus custom cams and ported heads with over-sized valves plus a full exhaust and a brand new intake manifold". That is what Rick at Livernois has to tune, so see why its taking awhile? PLUS he's doing back to back runs with the stock and C&L.
 
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