Stock SRT-4 vs a Stock 02 GT 5spd

bone_crusher · May 5, 2009

Ke^in said:
A SRT-4 with a turbo and intercooler basically matches a stock 2v GT in speed. How is it going to beat a GT if the GT puts a turbo in it? (Same mods) It's not going to even come close.

Exactly. Mod for Mod an SRT isn't going to pull a GT. No way, no how.

why not? you can upgrade to a .48 trim turbo and get a little over 410 to the wheels on an srt-4.

willkillyour last post made no sense. speak correctly please

Ke^in · May 5, 2009

bone_crusher said:
why not? you can upgrade to a .48 trim turbo and get a little over 410 to the wheels on an srt-4.

Again you have more displacement and HP to start with before the boost. You'll have more to end with after. If you do all the mods the SRT does, the Mustang will still be ahead because of this. I would say that motor without the turbo is probably good for 160-170 hp TOPS. The DOHC in the 99 R/T which was just a 2.0 had 150. It did the quarter in 15.9/16.1 seconds And since the SRT is heavier than the 99 R/T... it HAS to have boost to get anywhere near the Mustang. The mustang simply has more torque and HP to start with. If they were both modded similarly, the Mustang would always be on top because of that.

bone_crusher · May 5, 2009

im playing the semantics game but you bought a turbo so i went out and bought one and put it on now we're somewhat even again.

WillKill · May 5, 2009

HMUSN said:
same mods huh? So I can install a turbo?

of course not then at would be not be a race it would be rape

WillKill · May 5, 2009

bone_crusher said:
why not? you can upgrade to a .48 trim turbo and get a little over 410 to the wheels on an srt-4.

willkillyour last post made no sense. speak correctly please

nobody is speaking in here guy, and your my 2v would have have killed your ladybug car, im gonna say it one more time maybe you already know this because your posting in here, GT>neon, even though the neon usually pulls the gt with basic bolt-ons for each car.

Ke^in · May 5, 2009

Again that isn't true. Unless you aren't counting the turbo in the SRT as being a bolt on. Or you are saying that the Mustang has to stay N/A. Once the stang leaves the N/A field, the SRT will be even further behind.

HMUSN · May 5, 2009

my 91 GT might have beat a stock skittle.

check my blog.

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

Why are they called skittles? Because the rainbow of "colors" ?

HMUSN · May 6, 2009

no, because they look like a skittle.

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

AHahahahahaha , who Photoshopped that? That is brilliant. And this coming from someone that owns a 99 Neon R/T. Fun cars, but they aren't Mustang level. The SRT-4 is a fast car, but still not on the level of the Mustang, even if it can keep up with a stock GT in the 1/4.

You should see their list of "You know you own a SRT when" thread... :lol:

You Know You Drive An Srt 4 When... - SRT Forums - SRT4, SRT6, SRT8, SRT10 & Dodge Forum

Some really good ones.. some are funny, while others are just obnoxious.. like the one directly below..

chayesfSS said:
you look for 03/04 cobras to 'rape' now that you're holding 18psi to redline

chayesfSS said:
you've lost a race because the shifter knob fell of in your hand while you were hunting for second

neonkev said:
you give it to that lil mustang who thought he had balls and said "Its just a Neon".

4 car lengths later "ur lucky i missed third gear or i could have beat u."

his wife says he missed no gears just cryed the whole time saying **** thats a fast as lil bitch

lphooper03 said:
...you cant decide whether or not to call it a '****ing neon' or an 'SRT-4'. Depending on the last time it broke down.

Boosted 2.4 said:
...when shifting or decelerating to 2nd. The car jerks around all over the place.

StiEater04 said:
everyone calls it a neon until you rape them then all of a sudden it transforms into woahhh thats a fast srt-4

thuggishtavo said:
the a/c gets hot, cold, hot,cold,hot,cold,hot,cold and so on................:frogtongu

planetb said:
Oh, so thats not only my car that does that sometimes..

DillingerCP said:
...you don't consider wheel hop a factory defect but rather a challenging obstacle.

...you realize you're driving one of the only cars in exsistence that uses eyelids to make it's headlights look less gay.

05acr34 said:
When decelerating, your wife asks what is wrong with your car... Hmmm, that is normal honey...

FallenAngelHIM said:
My girlfriend asks that ALL THE TIME!!! "What's wrong with your car? What's that sound? Is that normal?"

3chord said:
....When you get gas like every other day because of the small gas tank

....When your BOV is louder than your horn

....When a spring and a couple of zip ties can get you two tenths at the local strip.

....When people say it sounds like something is wrong with the car, you take it as a compliment.

....When the headlight switch burns up on it's own, yet if if a train hit your car the rear wing is impervious to any damage

....When you put straight methanol in your windshield washer tank, then tell everyone not to use the windshield wiper squirter because it will ruin the paint...

FallenAngelHIM said:
...when your third gear pops out for the first time and you post "Why did my third gear pop out?" even though there are 20 threads below yours that asks the same question

redskySRT said:
When you have to move your head down when looking in the rear view mirror to figure out if that is a cop behind you or not because of the huge wing.

You wait to downshift from 4th into 2nd because going into 3rd is a surefire way to get everyones attention with the grinding.

orator3 said:
when you turn down the radio to listen to your exhaust then turn it back up cuz your sick of listening to your interior rattle w/ every bump..

Boosted 2.4 said:
Thought that was only my car :rofl:

popejoshpope said:
you have to FONZ your CD player to get the disc to eject

HWY* said:
When a U-turn requires a sharp tug on the E-brake!

squeezin SR20 said:
When you right bicep is getting bigger than your left from having to shift this P.O.S. tranny when the T.O.B. fork starts going bad!!!!!

redskySRT said:
You defend against the word Neon until it comes down to the insurance..then it say's "Neon" on your insurance card.

WillKill · May 6, 2009

Ke^in said:
Again that isn't true. Unless you aren't counting the turbo in the SRT as being a bolt on. Or you are saying that the Mustang has to stay N/A. Once the stang leaves the N/A field, the SRT will be even further behind.

dude, im not saying the turbo on the neon is a bolt-on, It comes with the car from the factory! Do you know what a bolt-on is, come on man. Im done with this thread

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

WillKill said:
dude, im not saying the turbo on the neon is a bolt-on, It comes with the car from the factory! Do you know what a bolt-on is, come on man. Im done with this thread

Yes I know what a bolt on is. But what I am saying is, I consider a turbo a mod regardless of when or where it was put on. Chrysler had to modify the Neon from the factory to get it to go speeds as fast as a stock GT. You put the same power adders on the Mustang, and the SRT-4 has no chance. I am rarely impressed when boosted and intercooled cars can JUST keep up with a N/A stock car. Now if you want to compare stock boosted from the factory Mustang with stock boosted from the factory SRT, again, the SRT has no chance. All I am trying to say is, in the end, the Mustang will always have the advantage over the SRT-4. And from what I have just read in the SRT forums (read above) they aren't that well put together. I am sorry you are "done with this thread" but you can't make up rules that make no sense to make one car look faster on paper than another. I mean you can, but someone will always comment on it. And if/when they do, you surely shouldn't get upset. :/

I've spent almost 10 years reading and learning about freaking Neons. I've owned 3. I got my R/T right before the SRT-4 came out, with plans of putting a turbo in. From what I read in the forums about turbo owners, it's not something for a daily driver. And it took a lot of tuning to get it to work properly. I wont go into the maintenance. That is why Dodge made the SRT-4. TO get a more reliable turbo Neon. They were supposed to sell kits for non SRT-4 Neons to turbo them. But they never did. So my R/T never got turbod. It would have been faster than the SRT simply because it was a lot lighter. I never did do it because It would have been a mistake. Now I am going to sell it for like 2k and use that money for a downpayment on a 02-04 GT. This will be my daily driver. I wont be racing it. I just want a fun daily driver

BTW the guys on ************* are talking about RAPING Mustang Cobras. These numbskulls are the people I am referring to. Now, I am not saying the SRT-4 can't be made to "rape" a stock Cobra. But it would take a lot of modding and money. For what? A FWD Neon..

bone_crusher · May 6, 2009

WillKill said:
nobody is speaking in here guy, and your my 2v would have have killed your ladybug car, im gonna say it one more time maybe you already know this because your posting in here, GT>neon, even though the neon usually pulls the gt with basic bolt-ons for each car.

WHY does the "GT>neon" though i want to hear your reasons why. you cant just say something and it is automaticly true. you have to give facts or statistics, as i did when i said they are the same preformance wise and i would even go as far as saying interior make-up they are the same.

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

bone_crusher said:
WHY does the "GT>neon" though i want to hear your reasons why. you cant just say something and it is automaticly true. you have to give facts or statistics, as i did when i said they are the same preformance wise and i would even go as far as saying interior make-up they are the same.

No, interior and makeup are not the same. I suggest you read the "You know you own a SRT" thread I posted above. Neons in general are known to have body/paint/interior problems. Things just falling apart. I've had to fix my Fender and bumper 4x since I bought my R/T because it was falling off. I've heard of similar problems with the SRT-4. Along with the 3rd gear slipping, the shifter knob just coming off, the AC not keeping cool, TONS of things. While the 99-04 GT isn't PERFECT, it hardly has the same problems Neons and teh SRT has had over the years. I give it to the SRT-4 for having a BETTER trim than the Neons it was made for. But for what you pay for it, it better.

I'd rather get a 1st gen coupe with a DOHC engine and put a SRT-4 turbo kit in it. I know people that have done it. It's faster than a stock SRT-4 because the 1st gens weighed considerably less. I actually had plans to do just that to my R/T when I bought it. After reading about it for 5-6 months I decided against it. All the problems that EXPERIENCED mechanics were having, I knew I didn't have a chance. Plus you basically had to rebuild the engine completely.. soo. And this was my daily driver. If you look at the 2003 SRTs now, some even have their front fascias coming loose. Just like the problems the 1st gen Neons had. I wont even go into head gasket problems. I actually got my 99 R/T's head gasket fixed for free because I knew it was defective, and not just abused. But if you didn't know, you got screwed. I still love my R/T, still have a blast driving it. But I wont/don't want to get another Neon based car because of the lack of quality over all that I ran into the past 10 years.

BTW yes I know the SRT-4 is a different car than the 99 R/T. But the R/T was Dodge's TOP OF THE LINE Neon at he time. It was their performance car. The 2nd gen had the same body problems. The paint problems weren't as bad. But the interior door plastic always came off too. A t least the second gens gave frames to the windows.. MAN were they noisy! It seems the SRT-4 still has noise problems.

If my wife still wants the SRT-4, will we get one. But it wont be my daily driver. The Mustang will . Being 36, I feel a bit too old driving a SRT-4.

03SonicBoom · May 6, 2009

Here's why I like the GT more than the Neon. Engine life.

The choice comes to two cars that are practically the same speed (talking stock, not modded). The Mustang engine is very reliable and doesn't have problems. There's a lot of people that keep the New Edge for upwards of 200k miles w/out major problems. The SRT-4 doesn't last that long and developes lots of problems w/ the boost.

So, you can buy two cars that are basically the same speed but one has less maintenance than the other. That's my 2 cents.

HMUSN · May 6, 2009

the neon is a fun little car.. dodge killed it when they made it front wheel drive. That is their major downfall.

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

03SonicBoom said:
Here's why I like the GT more than the Neon. Engine life.

The choice comes to two cars that are practically the same speed (talking stock, not modded). The Mustang engine is very reliable and doesn't have problems. There's a lot of people that keep the New Edge for upwards of 200k miles w/out major problems. The SRT-4 doesn't last that long and developes lots of problems w/ the boost.

So, you can buy two cars that are basically the same speed but one has less maintenance than the other. That's my 2 cents.

I agree with this post 100%

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

HMUSN said:
the neon is a fun little car.. dodge killed it when they made it front wheel drive. That is their major downfall.

It was always front wheel drive. But yeah a RWD Neon would have killed. I still love my 99 R/T. Just want something more without having to rely on a turbo.

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

More...

DillingerCP said:
...you want to rip the rear view mirror off and throw it out the window while speeding down the highway because every time you look up you realize it won't stay where you left it.

Silverbullet114 said:
All this time I thought this was just me

This one cracks me up. Delusional some?

3chord said:
^ And when LS1 Camaros, GTOs, Ford Cobra's, EVO's and STI's don't want to race you because they don't know if you're packing a 50 Trim

Ke^in · May 6, 2009

More evidence of the quality of SRT-4s

emilio said:
you try to find the right cruising speed so your interior doesnt rattle and embarass you

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