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ddashtrois

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ok so i just bought my stang like 2 months ago and I have a few questions i guess... the direction i want to take with my car is to drop either a SC or turbo in it next summer. my plan this summer is to build the internals up, and make the car ready to handle the power of a turbo or SC... is this a smart idea or would it better to just have it all done at once? If so, what are some key components i should invest in to strengthen the vehicle? although im looking for the power increases from SC or turbo, I dont want the car to blow up in 5 or 6 months, ya know? lol. so im just wondering the best way to drop a turbo or SC and do the least amount of damage to the car.

thx :D
 
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I dont think there would be anything wrong with getting the car ready for boost before u get a blower or turbo.

Are u gonna use moderate or HIGH boost?
 
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well the stock gt internals would handle moderate boost for a while, but IMO if u have the money go ahead and get forged internals OR just get a forged crate engine because you would most likely give in to the temptation of runnin higher boost later on and it would be a really good feeling to know you could do that safely. Oh yeah, u already said that u were gonna get forged internals, I forgot that.
 
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Well hind sight tells me you probably want to forge internals since i just blew my motor up yesterday....
 
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now your stock tranny, driveshaft, rear axle, and suspension would handle the increased torque and stresses ok, but to make the car dependable and stronger (like u mentioned before) I would say get a heavy duty tranny like a Tremec or something like that with a high performance clutch, Im guessing a new driveshaft wouldn't be totally required, you would wanna get a new gear set for the rear axle to be able to use your increased performance well, and u would most likely have to upgrade the basic components of the rear suspension for better traction and quicker launches
 
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WilltheThrill said:
well the stock gt internals would handle moderate boost for a while, but IMO if u have the money go ahead and get forged internals OR just get a forged crate engine because you would most likely give in to the temptation of runnin higher boost later on and it would be a really good feeling to know you could do that safely. Oh yeah, u already said that u were gonna get forged internals, I forgot that.
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+1 very good advice. that's what I would do.
 
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arite thx for all the info ^^. i actually just recently got a new rear gear set, if ur referring to the gear and pinion, one for better acceleration. and ya although i realize TC and SC are expensive in themselves, I'm looking more toward replacement pieces I can buy from week to week in an attempt to fortify my current engine. buying an entirely new one is absolutely scary to me haha, im no mechanic, and i have no money for a brand new transmission or engine. i was wondering tho, is there a difference in damage inflicted to an engine by either a supercharger or turbo? is one more wearing on an engine than another?
 
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putting any poweradder on your car will slightly shorten the life of your motor, but i don't think you really need to be too concerned with that unless you are running really high boost... the higher you go the more likely you are to blow something.
 
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well since u dont have enough money to get a new tranny, make sure you have fall-back money in your savings account, cuz you'll most likely have trouble with the stock tranny after a lil while if u run the car hard with a blower or turbo, I say that because of what I've seen and heard, some people will tell u that the stock tranny would do fine for a long time but I would disagree
 
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and I dont think there's any difference in the rate of "wear and tear" between a supercharger and a turbo
 
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Dude you can just run a turbo or supercharge at around 8-9 PSI safely on your engine. If I were you, I would go to the junk yard and buy another engine such as the 4V from any ford or Merc. That should not cost you too much. Then tear it apart and slowly rebuild it as funds permit. I would try and use a forged stroker crank, forged Manley rods, and the Manle dished forged pistons to keep compression down. Then if you would like then you could put on some aftermarket stage 2 heads and cams. (VT, Patriot Performance, Livernois,etc) Use an intake of choice and then put your blower or turbo on it. The 4V will cost more on the heads and cams and the block, but it will produce much more horsepower.
 
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ddashtrois said:
arite thx for all the info ^^. i actually just recently got a new rear gear set, if ur referring to the gear and pinion, one for better acceleration. and ya although i realize TC and SC are expensive in themselves, I'm looking more toward replacement pieces I can buy from week to week in an attempt to fortify my current engine. buying an entirely new one is absolutely scary to me haha, im no mechanic, and i have no money for a brand new transmission or engine. i was wondering tho, is there a difference in damage inflicted to an engine by either a supercharger or turbo? is one more wearing on an engine than another?
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There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive. Turbos have heat issues. Turbos work off exhaust gases and generate alot of heat. Both the turbo and a SC cause some strain on the engine. There are plenty of SC set ups that you can run on low to moderate boost without having to forge your internals right away, but eventually you will get beat badly in a race and you will want more HP. I think you should buy the SC now and add the additional things as you can afford them. Keep your boost at 9 PSI or lower and there shouldn't be any problems.
 
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WilltheThrill said:
I would say get a heavy duty tranny like a Tremec
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All newer Mustangs come with tremecs. Now there are heavt duty tremec transmissions like the tko 500 or 600.

Also just by a forged shortblock much easier and not much more expensive than building your own.
 
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check the vin and you will know and if you just want a street car go with the sc it is a little easier on the engine see that it starts making power at 3 r's and your stock can handle up to 400 hp, thats fast for a street car i think you would be happy with that and do some 373'sor 410's and p.s you can always brake something. good luck and have fun
 
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wow thanx for all the advice guys. im def gonna stay here for forums. nice group of poeple... yea im honestly not too hard on my car, referring to wear on transmission. I'm not the type of guy whos always blowing the tires for my friends or burning out... im more the laid back type... like 2 nights ago when a turbocharged golf GTi rolled up next to me and wanted some haha...he started the three count with his horn. he got absolutely toasted. thats what i want the horsepower for, fun occasional things such as that. i live in massachusetts, so theres no big race scene up here really, especially not on the streets, so racing and even being able to go all out with the car is limited, im just thoroughly overjoyed when im sitting in the seat of that thing....its a blast to drive.

ill probably start checkin prices on parts and comparing to actually building an engine over the summer, but i definately have a much better idea of what im doing after all teh info.

thx again :D
 
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ddashtrois said:
wow thanx for all the advice guys. im def gonna stay here for forums. nice group of poeple... yea im honestly not too hard on my car, referring to wear on transmission. I'm not the type of guy whos always blowing the tires for my friends or burning out... im more the laid back type... like 2 nights ago when a turbocharged golf GTi rolled up next to me and wanted some haha...he started the three count with his horn. he got absolutely toasted. thats what i want the horsepower for, fun occasional things such as that. i live in massachusetts, so theres no big race scene up here really, especially not on the streets, so racing and even being able to go all out with the car is limited, im just thoroughly overjoyed when im sitting in the seat of that thing....its a blast to drive.

ill probably start checkin prices on parts and comparing to actually building an engine over the summer, but i definately have a much better idea of what im doing after all teh info.

thx again :D
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You sound alot like me. I'm in upstate NY and we have no track or anything like that. All I have to look forward to is smoking the occasional car at the light. I don't plan to put a lot of money in this car until I see the prices for the new Camaro. :D
 
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The tremec 3650 can handle pretty much whatever - as long as you rev match your downshifts, and dont run slicks there will be no need for a new tranny
 
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