Of Junk!!!!!!!!
After a horrible day because of some broken bolts, we finally got to replacing my catted X-Pipe with the BBK offroad H.
Now, some will remember that I've never had much good to say about anything BBK, and this just adds to it. The list of problems with a simple bolt-on part should not be this long, and again shows how freaking lazy the BBK engineers are in creating parts. This was the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen for the outrageous price they want for it.
Issues:
#1: One of the O2 sensor bungs wasn't fully welded in, and there was a 1" gap where you could see through the pipe around the O2 bung. We welded it up right there in the shop, quick fix, but it shouldn't be an issue on a $180 Off-Road pipe.
#2: The flange for the driver's side was not the correct flange for the car. It was the same as the rear flange, and wasn't even close to fitting the studs for the driver's side. We used a die grinder and elongated the holes quite a bit in order for it to fit. Then, because it was the wrong flange, there was a huge lip on it, and it wouldn't clear the flanged parts on the driver's side studs. More grinding was in order.
#3: The H portion wasn't perfectly round upon delivery, and had to be rerounded with a tailpipe expander in order to slide over the other tube. I blame this one on careless handling at the factory, since the box was absolutely perfect when it arrived.
#4: The 02 sensor locations are absolutely horrible. They point straight down at the K-Member, and there's less than 1/2" in between the K-Member and the O2 sensor. I like to use the correct tool to tighten them, and this is impossible with their location. The MAC and UPR's I've installed were facing up, and it protected the O2 sensors better, and left more space around them. This also presented another problem: You had to have O2 extenders because of the crappy mounting locations. We had to make our own, because typically bolt on H and X pipes do not need O2 extenders, so we had none on hand. If they would have been in the same location as stock or the UPR or MAC, this wouldn't have been a problem.
#5: The back of the H-Pipe hangs down way too low for an offroad pipe. My UPR catted X tucked under a lot better than this thing. I see many scrapes on the rear flanges because of how low it hangs. I may have to add some hangers and pull the back of the pipe up towards the body, it's just that low.
I am sending a copy of this post to BBK's customer service as well, because I am very very upset with the fit and finish of this piece of crap, and will continue to steer people away from BBK's products until they start caring about the quality of the products that they're putting on the market and relying on their names to sell.
If you want an offroad H-Pipe, get the MAC or MRT. The MRT is a little pricey, but it's stainless steel, and fits like a glove. The MAC we installed also fit perfectly, as well as the multiple UPR offroad and catted X Pipes we've installed.
After a horrible day because of some broken bolts, we finally got to replacing my catted X-Pipe with the BBK offroad H.
Now, some will remember that I've never had much good to say about anything BBK, and this just adds to it. The list of problems with a simple bolt-on part should not be this long, and again shows how freaking lazy the BBK engineers are in creating parts. This was the biggest piece of crap I've ever seen for the outrageous price they want for it.
Issues:
#1: One of the O2 sensor bungs wasn't fully welded in, and there was a 1" gap where you could see through the pipe around the O2 bung. We welded it up right there in the shop, quick fix, but it shouldn't be an issue on a $180 Off-Road pipe.
#2: The flange for the driver's side was not the correct flange for the car. It was the same as the rear flange, and wasn't even close to fitting the studs for the driver's side. We used a die grinder and elongated the holes quite a bit in order for it to fit. Then, because it was the wrong flange, there was a huge lip on it, and it wouldn't clear the flanged parts on the driver's side studs. More grinding was in order.
#3: The H portion wasn't perfectly round upon delivery, and had to be rerounded with a tailpipe expander in order to slide over the other tube. I blame this one on careless handling at the factory, since the box was absolutely perfect when it arrived.
#4: The 02 sensor locations are absolutely horrible. They point straight down at the K-Member, and there's less than 1/2" in between the K-Member and the O2 sensor. I like to use the correct tool to tighten them, and this is impossible with their location. The MAC and UPR's I've installed were facing up, and it protected the O2 sensors better, and left more space around them. This also presented another problem: You had to have O2 extenders because of the crappy mounting locations. We had to make our own, because typically bolt on H and X pipes do not need O2 extenders, so we had none on hand. If they would have been in the same location as stock or the UPR or MAC, this wouldn't have been a problem.
#5: The back of the H-Pipe hangs down way too low for an offroad pipe. My UPR catted X tucked under a lot better than this thing. I see many scrapes on the rear flanges because of how low it hangs. I may have to add some hangers and pull the back of the pipe up towards the body, it's just that low.
I am sending a copy of this post to BBK's customer service as well, because I am very very upset with the fit and finish of this piece of crap, and will continue to steer people away from BBK's products until they start caring about the quality of the products that they're putting on the market and relying on their names to sell.
If you want an offroad H-Pipe, get the MAC or MRT. The MRT is a little pricey, but it's stainless steel, and fits like a glove. The MAC we installed also fit perfectly, as well as the multiple UPR offroad and catted X Pipes we've installed.
my o/r x though isn't that bad. sits really low though.
