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Jucostud has the c&l, before and after a centri:eek:
I didn't look at your setup, but you have to have a pretty stout motor to need an intake. Like heads, or f/i or both. **** it-get all 3:drink
 
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picking up a set of heads from a local shop the livernois stage 2 heads this week. other than that just cams, long tubes, full exhaust, intake, and a tune hoping to get a little extra power with the manifold to match with the heads
 
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Very mixed reviews on those manifolds. I have the JPC flavor on mine, but not for any hp gains....for more even gas distribution between cylinders. The JPC is a proven race product on 8s S197s.
 
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were i to need one i'd go with the jpc piece. i've had nothing but great experiences with them. very knowledgeable shop that justin has going. the only reason isn't because you have h/c/e, but as steven said for more even distribution between the cylinders. this is especially true with nitrous our forced induction.
 
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If you ever plan on going with boost, get the c&l or jpc. If staying n/a, the frpp will be fine. I know the stock tb will work with te c&l and frpp. I probably gained about 70 rwhp with my c&l and 127500's now than I've got the vortech. Most cars running the 3.6 pulley are around 430 rwhp. I'm at 505;).
 
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Before and after test on my car on the same day with the C&L intake manifold showed much less HP than they advertise. I gained 20whp and lost 11wtq.
 
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Jucostud said:
If you ever plan on going with boost, get the c&l or jpc. If staying n/a, the frpp will be fine. I know the stock tb will work with te c&l and frpp. I probably gained about 70 rwhp with my c&l and 127500's now than I've got the vortech. Most cars running the 3.6 pulley are around 430 rwhp. I'm at 505;).
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i'm having trouble thinking of anybody that's ever run their FRPP with boost... i'd like to see it though. other than the flex issue, i don't see any reason why not to run boost. and that flex comes with vaccuum anyway. after watching some youtube videos though, i'm pretty sure that the intake has been slightly redesigned to get rid of the "black lung" issue. after starting up my car, i didn't get ANY flex at any point in the rev range.
 
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Lightblade on S197 Forums is running 15+ PSI on his turbo setup with the FRPP intake and is in the region of 650RWHP. I might consider the C&L over the FRPP if I was going for 20+ pounds of boost. But not anything under that. IMHO the JPC intake is probably the best intake out there, but you pay for it. Not only do you pay a premium for the intake, but you still have to have delete plates too. Even the "cast" version that isn't out yet is fairly pricey.
 
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My buddy has his car setup almost the same as mine, the only real differance between the 2 bullitts is He is running the FRPP intake and I am running Steeda billit Charge motion delete plates "CMDP's". here is our dyno charts that I layed one on top of the other to see how the 2 intakes compared. Both Bullitts have a BBR tune and where on the rack about 1/2 hour apart..
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I am file #31 and he is #1, he has more hp and I have more tq... My tq raises sharply at 3200 rpm where as his hp keeps climbing after 6000rpm. You would have to figure out what you want.
 
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If I was going to spend the money I'd go with the JPC, either version. I just went with the Roush TVS intake manifold though so what do I know? :D

As far as the FRPP "black lung" issue I don't feel it's an issue. I just don't understand out of the same casting there were some intake manifolds that had it and others whom didn't. Makes me believe there was something different in the pour or environmental changes between the runs.
 
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You know when I got mine it came with about 20 short bolts that bolted the top of the intake to the bottom, but they weren't preinstalled like you'd think they would be. Makes me wonder if the guys with the flex issue even torqued those down properly
 
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