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#42 ·
Funny my car also won't start. It does that click noise. I was doing it two weeks prior but got worse. Although yesterday it turned on and ran for 2 min. Then I shut it off to see if it would crank up again.
 
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#43 ·
im not even sure i mechanically understood what happend here? u ran the car and it was fine then u moved and it died and now it doesnt work at all? would this happen because a bearing seized or would it happen because somehow a amount of liquid entered the combustion chamber and it locked. Not very familar with these camshaft bearings is there a particular reason they fail? like from lack or oil? or bad quality oil?
 
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Fifth Horseman said:
im not even sure i mechanically understood what happend here? u ran the car and it was fine then u moved and it died and now it doesnt work at all? would this happen because a bearing seized or would it happen because somehow a amount of liquid entered the combustion chamber and it locked. Not very familar with these camshaft bearings is there a particular reason they fail? like from lack or oil? or bad quality oil?
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In stock form, there are no camshaft "bearings". The camshafts ride in the bare camshaft journals in the aluminum heads. Oil starvation and/or overheating are quick ways to wipe out a camshaft journal and/or seize a cam in the head. Keep in mind that the oil pressure seen at the cam bores is MUCH lower than at the mains, as flow is purposely restricted.
 
#45 ·
Tang Stang said:
In stock form, there are no camshaft "bearings". The camshafts ride in the bare camshaft journals in the aluminum heads. Oil starvation and/or overheating are quick ways to wipe out a camshaft journal and/or seize a cam in the head. Keep in mind that the oil pressure seen at the cam bores is MUCH lower than at the mains, as flow is purposely restricted.
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^ This is one of the drawbacks of the modular. It would really suck to have ported heads and then somehow ruin one of the journals. :facepalm:
Also, the drainback in the heads seems to be an issue, or so I've read.

Something I've also always wondered about was why my friend has a Cobra and his owner's manual says 6 qts to fill, but my manual says 5 qts to fill. I've been under my car more times than I can count for various reason. When I got under his car, his pan was identical to my pan. So why the extra qt in the Cobra?:headscratcher:
 
#46 ·
StangAddiction said:
^ This is one of the drawbacks of the modular. It would really suck to have ported heads and then somehow ruin one of the journals. :facepalm:
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The journals can be line bored for bearing shells. I've been running a bearing shell in one of the cam towers on my 4V since '07. I also had it, and the rest of the cam journal bores, coated with a DFL coating (I had coatings done throughout the engine).


StangAddiction said:
Something I've also always wondered about was why my friend has a Cobra and his owner's manual says 6 qts to fill, but my manual says 5 qts to fill. I've been under my car more times than I can count for various reason. When I got under his car, his pan was identical to my pan. So why the extra qt in the Cobra?:headscratcher:
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That fill spec changed around '01, IIRC. You should be filling your engine with 6 qts. Grab a dipstick from a '01-up for the proper full mark.
 
#47 ·
yea 6 quarts is what should be used my manual says 5 but its wrong ford frequently updates their requirements for fluids on older vehicles. just like the rear differential fluid was updated to the the new 75w 140 for synthetics:

Sorry off topic i just find it interesting
 
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StangAddiction said:
^ This is one of the drawbacks of the modular. It would really suck to have ported heads and then somehow ruin one of the journals. :facepalm:
Also, the drainback in the heads seems to be an issue, or so I've read.

Something I've also always wondered about was why my friend has a Cobra and his owner's manual says 6 qts to fill, but my manual says 5 qts to fill. I've been under my car more times than I can count for various reason. When I got under his car, his pan was identical to my pan. So why the extra qt in the Cobra?:headscratcher:
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Bigger heads, and more cams.

Sent from Titan Uranus
 
Discussion starter · #52 ·
Pretty sure it was a stock 3v oil pump. For some stupid freakin reason. Who builds an engine and puts an oem oil pump on?!
Gonna go with either mmr hurricane or tss oil pump so this crap doesn't happen again
 
#53 ·
well wouldn't a oem oil pump be safe? aren't they designed to last for the life of the engine?
mine has 113k miles on it and seems to be just fine however, i have been thinking about replacing when i do my timing chain
 
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Fifth Horseman said:
well wouldn't a oem oil pump be safe? aren't they designed to last for the life of the engine?
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The stock powdered metal oil pump gears aren't particularly "robust".
 
Discussion starter · #55 ·
Well long time no talk.. been a long 7 months since engine locked up on me

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After taking the machine shop over 2 months to port my heads I find out after having a shop start to put everything back together for me that the machine shop charged me and arm and a leg and didnt even do their job correctly. They didnt remove any of the plugs in the heads and now the drivers side head is plugged up somewhere causing it to only get 10psi of oil pressure wild the passenger side geta 60psi. Yay for taking the head off and replacing yet another headgasket..

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Hopefully the shop will get this figured out as its already been there for 2 months. They keep running into problems it seems
 
#56 ·
Snail2v said:
Well long time no talk.. been a long 7 months since engine locked up on me

---------- Post added at 12:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 PM ----------

After taking the machine shop over 2 months to port my heads I find out after having a shop start to put everything back together for me that the machine shop charged me and arm and a leg and didnt even do their job correctly. They didnt remove any of the plugs in the heads and now the drivers side head is plugged up somewhere causing it to only get 10psi of oil pressure wild the passenger side geta 60psi. Yay for taking the head off and replacing yet another headgasket..

---------- Post added at 12:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 PM ----------

Hopefully the shop will get this figured out as its already been there for 2 months. They keep running into problems it seems
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damn man sorry for the bad luck
 
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