Let me just start off by saying i had the VMP and bama tunes. This tune idles and runs so much better than both of those tunes did. No more jerky first gear cruising around the parking lot like the bama did. And power comes on much smoother and love the popping you get between gear changes above 3k rpms. Car just feels better all around with the new tune. And thanks to Jason for getting my tune out fast to me. If you are looking for more power and better drive ability this is your tune for your car :thumb:
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Lol, ****! 24!!
I think it was whenever you would post, you would write at the end
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I was like yeah that's an old person move haha
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Nope and nope. I always thought I looked young. Now supra makes me feel like an old piece of ****
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If it makes you feel any better, I kinda wish I looked a bit older. Everyone seems to think I'm 16 or 17 years old :facepalm:
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I got a chance to read these , I really really hope Shaun posts up. St this point, I don't think it's as much about Mike as it is about you. Mike actually apologized over and over. Shauns a good guy, and didn't want this all to be public because he didn't want Mike to get in trouble.
Mike did not call Shaun first... Well maybe before Shaun knew he was using his tunes as email. They had an agreement of Shaun giving Mike his base tune files, to help out a friend, and Mike to use it in house tuning, or at the track.
Not to sneakily work for a company, and sell the tunes for $150 less. How any of you see this is okay is beyond me.
Shaun had made the first call to Mike about Mike using his tunes. Mike did not even put up a fight. This is not just the CJ tune. There's others. Shaun says he puts specific things in his tunes (what they are idk, im not a tuner) and when he received logs from people going from HMP to AED he knew something was going on.
I saw in another post a page or 2 back Jason, you said you'll probably stick to dyno tuning now. Why? Another shady coinsidence ... Now that Mike "deleted" Shauns tunes cant do email tuning now? Just seems odd.
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I'll say this one more time and then I'm moving on.
You've created your opinion of me, I've said time and time again the only thing I knew is the CJ manifold and still that's really all I know now. Shaun has flaunted that he has other recorded messages, now there is a posted recording all over the internet of Mike. In California, both parties need to be aware of the conversation, yet he gave it to the consumer market.
I had a long conversation with Mike about the tunes, all the drama and I finally asked him bluntly. "Did you use Shaun's base file tunes as your own?"
This is the answer I got, "I blatantly used the CJ Manifold file as a whole. If we had an issue with a particular drivability problem I would refer back to some of Shaun's tunes to see if there was a solution, typically there wasn't." This is what I know, I'll take the word from my tuner over what you have to say.
Also, you're beating a dead horse on this issue and Beefcake has taken it upon himself to even post this on his page, I'm not surprised though. He's taking advantage of the situation. Not just 2 weeks ago he wanted to "mend" our problems. He asked if I wanted to buy Paxton and Vortech blowers off him and in turn he could buy Roush products (mainly superchargers) off us since we're master dealers. Funny how you're the only company that's trying to push the issue further, everyone else could care less, I know, I talked to a lot of other companies for guidance. Funny how you befriend someone then catch them talking crap 2 days later but I digress.
Shaun, you say you didn't want this to go public? Why the hell was everyone told but myself? Pretty funny you talk about me being a liar but you weren't man enough to approach me on this, neither was Shaun. He completely lied to Mike's face saying everything was ok then turned around and called him a snake to the open consumer market, yeah, we're the shady ones. There was an agenda to this whole situation, there are only a select few that keep pushing the issue as well. All of them just so happen to be affiliated heavily with Beefcake or AED.
Mike made a mistake, he's owned up to his mistake. He's a damn good tuner as well. I actually accept his apology, unlike Shaun who was two faced with him... apparently this is common practice with Shaun as I talked to other companies on the matter.
I like how you spin the whole dyno tuning thing, I've talked to ALOT of companies that stick to mainly dyno tuning, its a safer option and a lot less drama. If you think Mike is a bad tuner, you have badly mistaken that and I'll account to the fact you have know idea what the hell you're talking about.
Remember when AM had great tunes when Doug and Mike were there? Kind of fell apart when they both left. I didn't want to get AM involved but you guys had no problem doing that, from what I was told Mike only had a 1 year non-compete which has way come and gone. Regarding AM's tuning, they tune more in one day then we do in a month. Honestly, doesn't matter how good you are, its hard to manage all those orders.
Jacob, there was absolutely no shady reasoning behind me not telling people who the tuner was. Honestly, no one really cared but a few (which was Beefcake and his following).
When we sold VMP tunes I kept getting the, why would we go thru you and not just VMP? I simply didn't want to go thru that process all over again, if you ever met Mike he's a VERY quiet guy. I wanted Hypermotive to be known as a company you could come get a tune from along with parts.
We have had 2 tunes in question, Kevin Adams (which I completely said was my fault), Mike wanted another set of logs and I just overlooked the email and it was me who said he was good to go, not Mike. The other was a customer who didn't even tell us, nor did he send us any logs. He just went somewhere else.
There are a few customers out there that have had some slight drivability issues we couldn't always hammer out, I'm very comfortable with saying that. I personally had a Lund tune on my 2011 Mustang that kept stalling, Lund couldn't find the issue. I didn't go around bashing his name, I just simply went to Pro Dyno and got a dyno tune. We have yet to blow anyone's motor, we have a lot of cars (don't know the specific number) of guys who run there cars on a road course that do just fine. We have multiple Paxton tunes from us (as Kdanner put it Shaun had idle issues) we've had none. We have multiple guys running our Roush tunes.
We also tune Diesel, Dodge and GM. The last I checked Shaun only tunes Mustangs.
I'm sure Beef will use some part of this post again like last time to put on Facebook, maybe he'll look like a hero but he has an agenda. He's not trying to "educate the consumer market", he's trying to get rid of us. He always has been and that makes me smile.
This whole situation has been a learning experience and have shown me who I can trust, who is loyal and who is quick to judge without even asking me anything. It was a snake thing to do in telling everyone else but myself, Shaun C., Beef and Shaun at AED. You guys are all cowards, couldn't even let me know what was going on, couldn't even make sure I knew what was going on. You passed judgment and you passed it quickly.
I'm completely done talking about this, if anyone has an issue you know how to reach me. Thanks again to those who have stuck by my side, to the others, your true colors were shown.
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I'm not a beefcake follower, so you can stop throwing that out there. I actually very rarely even talk to Terry.
The fact that you think Shaun lied to Mike's face is honestly pathetic. Your true colors are really showing.
Yes, Shaun secretley told Mike, hey here's all my tune files, go do email tuning and undercut my price by $150. Are you serious? Like do you honestly believe that?
As a friend Shaun gave Mike files to tune in house. They agreed on him not using them as email tunes because that'll take away business from Shaun.
I'm not beating a dead horse. I'm calling you out on your bs lies. lie after lie.
Btw, I didn't make it public. I told a very select few. I talked to Shaun about it, he told me rather then making it public, tell people who are tuned by hypermotive I'll do a tune for them at $150 vs his normal $250. Since basically they'll be paying for another AED tune.
So you can stop referring to everyone as a Beefcake follower.
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Not to mention, what's the point of telling you something you already knew? Or did the price magically go from $99 to $250, then a day later $200?
The fact that you think Shaun lied to Mike's face is honestly pathetic. Your true colors are really showing.
Yes, Shaun secretley told Mike, hey here's all my tune files, go do email tuning and undercut my price by $150. Are you serious? Like do you honestly believe that?
As a friend Shaun gave Mike files to tune in house. They agreed on him not using them as email tunes because that'll take away business from Shaun.
I'm not beating a dead horse. I'm calling you out on your bs lies. lie after lie.
Btw, I didn't make it public. I told a very select few. I talked to Shaun about it, he told me rather then making it public, tell people who are tuned by hypermotive I'll do a tune for them at $150 vs his normal $250. Since basically they'll be paying for another AED tune.
So you can stop referring to everyone as a Beefcake follower.
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Not to mention, what's the point of telling you something you already knew? Or did the price magically go from $99 to $250, then a day later $200?
Trying to be as nice as possible, you say im a great salesman, well you my friend are too. You keep selling yourself as a victim.
At the end of the day, I have a problem with theft. Let's lay it out since you want to keep dragging me into it.
1) problem started when you came on to svt and started back door selling and having your sales people do the same. You and multiple people have been banned for it and it got so bad the name of your company can't be searched. Bottom line, that's stealing.
2) then you went to my page, copied my package and options and even copied part of my name and admitted to it via pm. Again, stealing.
3) selling stolen tunes. Price was changed just as the phone conversation says. Caught, plain and simple. Let's not be coy.
To those out there that aren't simple minded, They can see through the smoke and mirrors. I'm sick of hearing about this military code of ethics, it isn't present here. And I'm not bashing the military before that gets swayed, I was in the military.
My business has grown 50% this year, Your not slowing me down.
We live in this world where everyone else is to blame and no one is held accountable for their own actions. Some how it's now mine and aed s fault you guys got caught selling stolen tunes lol.
So, I've said what I need to say, people can read and make their own decision on what they want to believe. It's a pattern, plain and simple.
I'm sure you'll continue to try to make yourself the victim, I was done until you drug me back in playing poor poor pitiful me.
It's like the guy that breaks into the house to steal a t.v., trips and falls and sues the owner of the house. Pathetic
At the end of the day, I have a problem with theft. Let's lay it out since you want to keep dragging me into it.
1) problem started when you came on to svt and started back door selling and having your sales people do the same. You and multiple people have been banned for it and it got so bad the name of your company can't be searched. Bottom line, that's stealing.
2) then you went to my page, copied my package and options and even copied part of my name and admitted to it via pm. Again, stealing.
3) selling stolen tunes. Price was changed just as the phone conversation says. Caught, plain and simple. Let's not be coy.
To those out there that aren't simple minded, They can see through the smoke and mirrors. I'm sick of hearing about this military code of ethics, it isn't present here. And I'm not bashing the military before that gets swayed, I was in the military.
My business has grown 50% this year, Your not slowing me down.
We live in this world where everyone else is to blame and no one is held accountable for their own actions. Some how it's now mine and aed s fault you guys got caught selling stolen tunes lol.
So, I've said what I need to say, people can read and make their own decision on what they want to believe. It's a pattern, plain and simple.
I'm sure you'll continue to try to make yourself the victim, I was done until you drug me back in playing poor poor pitiful me.
It's like the guy that breaks into the house to steal a t.v., trips and falls and sues the owner of the house. Pathetic
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I was going to say, why is he calling out Terry again? Nothing was even said. I'm sure to take some of the heat off himself.
And really I'm not buddy buddy with Terry. A couple times on svtp went back and forth, but nothing serious. So no, I'm not a beefcake follower.
And really I'm not buddy buddy with Terry. A couple times on svtp went back and forth, but nothing serious. So no, I'm not a beefcake follower.
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Okay, talked to Shaun. This is a phone conversation when Shaun had enough evidence against Mike knowing he used his tunes.
This was Shauns email attatched to it
" Here is the first conversation (callout).**** You will hear why I did not want this posted as I do care about Mike and did not want to see him get hurt in all of this, but it seems to be the only way to clear my name at this point."
Vocaroo | Voice message
This is also another email from Shaun
" I see they are drawing incorrect conclusions.
I gathered all the evidence I needed and called Mike to confront him on being the HPM tuner.**** He denied it (as he had 2 previous times), until I laid out a bunch of evidence, then he came clean.**** It's all in phone recording, but what is also in there is Mike laying out his reasoning for doing this and it's very personal.
HPM pricing was $99 on August 5th and $250 on the 6th, updated over night AFTER the dated phone conversation I had with Mike.**** Jason is lying about that.
Oh, I also have an email from Mike about it dated August 6th at 4am:
"Explained the situation and it was agreed that it was unfair to undercut so the price will be raised to $250. Call if you'd like to but I understand if you don't"
This is a reference to talking to Jason, as indicated at the end of the first conversation recording.
The short version of the long story is Mike quite Bama and moved back to DFW.**** He's been tuning local cars and asked me for help with the Coyote's from time to time.**** I help out my buddies, including sending full files they can refine as necessary.**** We regularly discussed that these files were ONLY for in-person tuning, not for email tuning customers as that represents a conflict with my e-tune business.********
Early this year Mike started asking for more and more files for random coyote and EcoBoost setups, so I sent him many files.********Mike insisted he was only tuning cars in person at True Street in McKinney TX, but secretly these files were being used for HPM customers.
Based on message board chatter I started to realize what he was doing, and I feel like an idiot that it took me 3 months to notice to tell you the truth.**** It took another 6 weeks to accumulate the necessary evidence and I called out Mike on the phone.**** To cover my own ass in the Public Opinion battle"
This was Shauns email attatched to it
" Here is the first conversation (callout).**** You will hear why I did not want this posted as I do care about Mike and did not want to see him get hurt in all of this, but it seems to be the only way to clear my name at this point."
Vocaroo | Voice message
This is also another email from Shaun
" I see they are drawing incorrect conclusions.
I gathered all the evidence I needed and called Mike to confront him on being the HPM tuner.**** He denied it (as he had 2 previous times), until I laid out a bunch of evidence, then he came clean.**** It's all in phone recording, but what is also in there is Mike laying out his reasoning for doing this and it's very personal.
HPM pricing was $99 on August 5th and $250 on the 6th, updated over night AFTER the dated phone conversation I had with Mike.**** Jason is lying about that.
Oh, I also have an email from Mike about it dated August 6th at 4am:
"Explained the situation and it was agreed that it was unfair to undercut so the price will be raised to $250. Call if you'd like to but I understand if you don't"
This is a reference to talking to Jason, as indicated at the end of the first conversation recording.
The short version of the long story is Mike quite Bama and moved back to DFW.**** He's been tuning local cars and asked me for help with the Coyote's from time to time.**** I help out my buddies, including sending full files they can refine as necessary.**** We regularly discussed that these files were ONLY for in-person tuning, not for email tuning customers as that represents a conflict with my e-tune business.********
Early this year Mike started asking for more and more files for random coyote and EcoBoost setups, so I sent him many files.********Mike insisted he was only tuning cars in person at True Street in McKinney TX, but secretly these files were being used for HPM customers.
Based on message board chatter I started to realize what he was doing, and I feel like an idiot that it took me 3 months to notice to tell you the truth.**** It took another 6 weeks to accumulate the necessary evidence and I called out Mike on the phone.**** To cover my own ass in the Public Opinion battle"
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