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AED Tune Review.

I think most people want to hear what they want to hear.

However, I prefer to hear the truth and you have to respect someone that is willing to share with you their honest opinion and advice based on their experience even at the risk of offending you.

Shaun is that guy.

If that is the case, then what did I learn during my short visit at AED’s facilities?

Shaun hates my Stainless Works Retro exhaust system and my JLT oil catch can leaks. Not oil, but air! LOL!

As my car was being strapped to the dyno, Shaun saw my SW exhaust and asked me what I thought about it. I told him I like the SW exhaust because it has a unique sound and above-average quality. He then asked me if I performed a before/after dyno? Since I had, I answered, yes. He responded with, “You lost power, right.” Once again, I answered, yes! But, I only lost 1whp/0wtq compared to the factory exhaust.

Basically, his issue with the SW Retro exhaust was because the system is restrictive due to the fact that the muffler inside diameter is smaller than the exhaust pipe diameter and sacrifices power for sound. He was right. That was my experience too. However, even with the SW exhaust installed, my Mustang still made power.

After we made the baseline dyno, Shaun uploaded the AED Tune and noticed a rare lean condition. Shockingly, he immediately exited my car and searched under the hood until he found my JLT oil catch can and began removing it. I asked what he was doing and he replied that it was leaking. Leaking? The JLT wasn’t leaking! It’s clean, properly installed, and secure. Nope, wrong! It was leaking air! A vacuum leak. The leak caused the lean condition. Shaun disassembled, sealed it using Teflon tape, put it back together, and reinstalled it. Lean condition fixed. Wow!

AED’s facility and crew are impressive and they made me feel at home as Shaun worked his magic on my Mustang. The tuning process went smoothly and Shaun continued making adjustments until he was satisfied with the results. After completing the work, Shaun finalized my custom AED Tunes and uploaded them to the SCT x4 Programmer.
Shaun uploaded the AED Performance Tune, Drag Tune, Road Race Tune, and the ‘Lopey’ Idle Tune.

Alright. The results.

I don’t want to confuse everyone with numbers. But, please forgive me. I’m going to.

The local dyno I frequent uses a SuperFlow Dyno. Also known as the ‘heartbreaker’ for its conservative results. AED doesn’t have a SuperFlow. They have a DynoCom which reads similar to a DynoJet. For kicks, just two weeks before my appointment with AED, I took my 2013 GT to a different dyno shop that had a DynoJet and made 393whp/374wtq SAE with the Airaid CAI and SW Retro exhaust on the factory tune. I did this in order to compare this baseline to the baseline I recorded at AED’s dyno.

It worked! My Mustang produced the exact same 393whp/374wtq SAE on AED’s dyno.

The AED Tune resulted in 408whp/382wtq! The car picked up a significant amount of power throughout the RPM range and 15whp/8wtq peak.

Here are my dyno numbers from my AED visit;



I’m grinning ear-to-ear!

The drivability of my Mustang has been drastically enhanced with the AED Tune.

Let’s break it down.

I’ll always consider the Mazda RX7 12A as the benchmark for throttle response. And to be honest, I much prefer the archaic Throttle-Cable setups for their immediate direct responsiveness. I’ve never been a fan of the Throttle-By-Wire setups. Luckily, with the AED Tune, the throttle response has been greatly improved and is very similar to a cable setup. The AED throttle response is crisp, direct, and immediate. The accelerator pedal actually feels like it is connected to the throttle blade. This AED upgrade has proven to be better than ALL of the OEM Throttle-By-Wire setups I’ve driven. I’m impressed. No easy task.

With the AED Tune, the engine is more eager to accelerate and additional torque in the lower RPMs is very noticeable. You can really feel the power increase. The rear tires can too, as they now spin effortlessly in a pathetic protest through first, second, and third gears erupting in massive amounts of aromatic white smoke annihilating the asphalt, painting long strips of molten rubber behind (okay, I might be exaggerating…but, only a little). The bump in torque flattens the torque curve and makes the engine feel as if it has a bit more displacement. This aids in the power delivery which is incredibly smooth. I’ll further describe the power delivery as ‘deceptively’ smooth because the engine elicits no drama as it races through the RPM’s. The Tune has improved acceleration enabling my Mustang to reach silly speeds much, much faster than before. This improvement is especially noticeable at higher speeds. That is, if you can get traction!

Did I mention that the engine sounds different? It does. In fact, it sounds amazing! However, I really can’t describe the difference in words. How do you describe something like this? The engine now sounds ‘Tuned’. Can I say that? To my surprise, passengers in my Mustang commented on the change in sound too. I’m not crazy. Really, I’m not!

Nobody purchases a Mustang GT for MPG (especially with 3.73’s). But, for me, this is personal. My GT is the FIRST car I’ve owned (and I’ve owned a lot of cars) that I haven’t been able to achieve the claimed MPG rating. I’ve read a lot of posts about guys getting a combined average of 24 MPG. Another will say, I’m getting 26 MPG! What? No way!

I average a disappointing 19 MPG.

Well, with the AED Tune, so far, I’ve picked up +2 MPG. And, I have a feeling that I’ll pick up more when I stop hammering on the car. Right now I’m recording an average of 21 MPG.

Keeping with tradition, all performance modifications installed on my Mustang require a trip to my local dyno so I can verify and compare previous results with new results on a familiar dyno. I made my appointment and headed back to Bottle-Blown Racing to confirm the gains I achieved on AED’s dyno.

My last trip to Bottle-Blown Racing netted 372whp/354wtq STP in 5th gear on their SuperFlow dyno. Can you now see why it is nicknamed the heartbreaker? DynoJet = 393whp/374wtq. SuperFlow = 372whp/354wtq. Yep, it’s a heartbreaker.

This time my Mustang equipped with the AED Tune, Airaid CAI, and SW Retro exhaust made 376whp/355wtq STP in 5th gear.



Wait, wait, wait. That’s only a 4whp and 1wtq peak gain!?! Correct.

According to my calculations, I should have picked up 12whp/7wtq, for a total of 388whp/362wtq on the Superflow dyno. So, what happened?

Different dyno, different day? Perhaps. The 91 octane fuel is better in Central California compared to Southern California? Possible.

Can this discrepancy be dismissed? I don’t know.

Comparing the AED dyno graphs to my SuperFlow dyno graphs you can see it isn’t just numbers. The power curve has changed slightly. The SuperFlow dyno graph still illustrates the increase in horsepower and torque from 2,500 to 4,000 RPMs followed by the unavoidable 4,000 RPM Coyote power dip, but, the difference with the SuperFlow graph is that the engine loses a little power from 4,500 to 5,000 RPMs before changing course and producing gains in both horsepower and torque from 5,000 RPMs to redline.

The reality is these are just numbers.

The SuperFlow dyno results haven’t changed anything regarding how the car performs. It runs just as good now as it did when I left AED.

Looking back, Shaun and AED were realistic and honest. We made more power on AED’s DynoCom but, I was originally told to expect a 5whp peak gain, which, is basically what I recorded on the SuperFlow dyno and let us not forget the significant improvement in power in the lower and upper RPM’s. Furthermore, the additional power is only part of the equation. With the AED Tune, you are finally able to apply FULL power to the pavement which is why you see many of the AED tuned cars picking up 3-4mph in the ¼ mile while only making an additional 5-10whp peak gain. The improved throttle response and having the ability to play with the top speed limiter, revlimiter, and gear ratios are also attractive features.

The car drives great with the AED Tune. It sounds great. It gets better MPG. The package is worth the money. I highly recommend it!

Overall, the AED Tune is an impressive upgrade and has made my car more fun to drive.

I would like to thank the forums for introducing me to AED. Obviously, like everyone else, I highly recommend Shaun and AED! The Kool-Aid tastes great!

Mike
 
Great write ups Mike! I have read every one word for word. I agree that you should write for a magazine. When I read your reviews I feel like I'm reading an article in MM&FF or 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords. I also like how you are using the same dyno to record your results, it makes for more controlled results IMO. Love the look of the car man, my only objection would be to the fender emblems but to each his own. Keep the reviews coming man, I love reading them.
 
Discussion starter · #66 ·
Speakers!

So we have all come to the conclusion that the factory 2013 Ford Mustang Base audio system sound quality is utterly horrific. The volume extension is pathetic. The sound quality is muddy and flat. Distorted and void of any detail. The audio experience is painful. I have never in my life heard a worse OEM audio system in a new car. The base Ford Mustang audio system is without a doubt, an embarrassment to the brand.

Honestly, there is no reason to use the audio system. Silence is better.

However, when I’m cruising, or travelling long distances, I actually prefer to listen to music. It helps pass the time and improve my mood. The frustrating thing is, it is literally impossible to enjoy music with this awfully unpleasant audio system.

Let’s face it. The Mustang’s interior isn’t the quietest. Why should it be? It’s a Mustang, not a luxury car! The problem, however, is the fact that the interior is noisy and only gets noisier with the addition of aftermarket exhaust systems and other go-fast components (which I have). The only perceivable way to hear music over the growl of the road and the roar of the exhaust is to turn up the volume. And that is when things go bad. Really bad. When the radio volume reaches 50%, the OEM speakers cease to operate optimally and produce a sound like…

Remember when you used to blow-up a large air balloon and let it fly around the room? Remember that sound? That’s what the OEM speakers sound like when driven beyond their ridiculous infantile limits. Like that! These speakers and this audio system is inarguably inaudible.

To be clear, I’m not talking excessive volume levels here folks. I don’t listen to my music loud. I don’t want anybody outside my vehicle to hear what I’m listening to. I’m referring to required volume levels. A volume level necessary to overcome the road noise. No more, no less. The OEM speakers are an epic fail.

At my age and perceived maturity, I thought, I would never need to purchase aftermarket automotive audio components again. I truly believed I had out-grown the need. I was wrong.

My goal was to purchase new speakers designed to be used with the OEM radio and offer bolt-in fitment. No hassles. At the time of purchase, I had no desire to upgrade the radio, or add amplifiers. I like keeping things simple, or as simple as possible.

In the last 10 years, I’ve spent virtually zero attention to the aftermarket audio market, so I needed to do some research before I purchased new speakers for my Mustang. Not surprisingly, I spent much of my time reading through threads on the various Mustang car forums. As expected I read some really good detailed reviews on a number of different aftermarket speakers for my Mustang.

During my research there were a couple speaker models which received many accolades and were said to work well with the OEM audio system. The Infinity Kappa 682.11cf 6x8 and the Pioneer TS-D6802R 6x8 speakers. I purchased the Pioneers because they were only $70 a pair online, a true OEM replacement speaker, and I’ve had good experience with their products in the past.

I know that many Mustang owners just replaced the front door speakers. But, that’s not my plan. The best way to obtain a balanced sound is to use matching speakers. I purchased two pairs. Two new speakers for the doors and two new speakers for the rear. I’m hoping the additional investment will result in better overall sound quality. We’ll see.

Ford didn’t make it easy to remove/replace the rear speakers. To gain access to the rear speakers, you have to remove all the rear compartment trim panels. What a pain. Let me think, this job requires force to gain access to the areas I need to work. I’m going to be dealing with thin flimsy plastic trim panels, cheesy plastic retainers, and strong metal retainers. What could go wrong? I believe many Mustang owners replace only the front speakers because they don’t want to go through the struggle replacing the rears. I almost talked myself out of purchasing the rear speakers because of the risky installation.

Man, I don’t want to do this.

It’s true. I didn’t want to do this. I even thought about paying someone else to do it. But, I find exceptional value doing the work myself because I like knowing precisely the quality of work that has been used during and undertaking such as this. However, would my inexperience with the removal with the Ford trim panels will cause some issues?

And here we go!

Knowing that the rear speaker installation would be the most difficult, I started with there. Why not? I removed the rear seats, starting with the rear cushion (you don’t need to completely remove the rear seats but, I did because I’m doing a rear-seat-delete…more on that…in a future review). With the rear seats removed I started with the trim panels. Using a specialized urethane tool kit I began prying-out the tricky nasty little plastic retainers. Trouble began to surface when I attempted to remove the door sill trim panels. I broke both door sill trim panels! The trim plastic is very weak and the metal retainers are quite solid and secure. A couple of the trim plastic retainer tongues broke off in the metal retainers while a couple of the entire trim retainers broke completely off the trim panel. Not happy.

It is very possible I was using the wrong technique but, still I didn’t expect to have the structural failures I experienced with the trim panels during the removal process. Very frustrating.

I was bright red, swearing, and sweating profusely but, I continued on. I popped the A-pillar trim and began removing the rear quarter trim panels. This went smoothly. I just had to pay special attention to locate a couple of the more hidden trim retainers. I didn’t remove the rear trim from the car, I just simply moved it forward and out-of-the-way so I could access and move the rear shelf trim to get to the speakers. With the shelf panel removed I attacked the crappy OEM speakers. They were easy to remove.

Let me just say, the rear OEM speakers are a joke. The quality is disgusting and what a surprise, printed in large letters…Made in China. Figures!

Garbage.


Bang-for-the-buck Value.


I installed the new Pioneer speakers (which are also made in China!?!) and with new Ford style speaker harnesses, they are 100% plug and play.

The reinstallation of the rear quarter trim panels were straight-forward but, for me, not completely trouble free. While attempting to align everything and pop the panels back in place, I broke another retainer off the quarter trim. Luckily, the missing retainer didn’t cause any issues with the reinstallation and the trim panel remains quietly secured. I then focused on somehow reinstalling the broken door sill trim panels. Ironically, broken retainers and all, with a little work, I was able to reinstall the sill panels using only the two remaining and functioning retainers per side. I doubt anyone that views my work would know that they are broken. However, I know they’re broken (one of the reasons I like doing the work myself…somebody else may not have broken the parts, but, if they did, would they mention it and be willing to replace them?) and I’ll likely have them replaced.

The front speaker installation was a breeze. I was happy that the Mustangs door panels are held in place with screws and they remove just like any other car. Of course locating all the screws and removing the small trim covers, and disconnecting the electrical connectors are a bit of a pain but, the entire process was easy. Just like the rear speakers, the front speakers are junk. The Pioneer speakers are advertised as direct bolt-on replacements but, I had to remove two metal tabs on the speakers for them to sit flush and mount perfectly in the door. No problem. The reinstallation of the front door panels were a joy compared to my experience with the rear quarter and sill trim panels. Thank God!

Before.

After.


Overall, I must say this experience, combined with my prior experience installing other components on this vehicle is evidence to me that the Ford trim quality and design is tragically weak. The simplistic interior trim design and installation procedure might be great to save time at the assembly plant but, it’s bad for the guys having to work on and service the vehicle. Oh well, it is what it is. We don’t want improvements that lead to a $50K Mustang GT!

Was it worth all the trouble? Yes!

The sound quality has been noticeably improved. I can now actually hear my music when driving at highway speeds with the windows up, or down. The volume extension is much better and the larger Pioneer speakers deliver a bit more bass which is surely welcome. But, as expected, the most significant improvement can be heard in the higher frequencies. At 50% volume level the Pioneer speakers produce a clear and detailed sound with distinct vocal and instrument separation. These are attributes the OEM speakers could only dream of delivering. The sound is void of any distortion at volume levels approaching 75%. Very commendable.

With the good, comes the bad. You can’t expect the new Pioneer speakers to magically produce a superior high-end sound quality alone. Simply stated, total system is still composed of budget components. Volume levels still can’t be pushed too far and the sound remains unbalanced with the high frequency overpowering the low frequency. New bolt-on speakers can’t cure everything. The new Pioneer speakers have also exposed and magnified the shortcomings of the factory radio amplifier. However, my biggest issue with the factory Base radio remains the lack of a USB audio port, which is unforgivable.

Please! You must not allow me to get carried away!

When I revisit my initial goals, I have succeeded. I’m sincerely happy with the improvement, especially when considering the total cost of the investment.

Mike
 
No! Get carried away!!

Quit your job.
Get someone to fund you. (Someone step up here!)
Spend 100% of your time modding your mustang.
Spend the other whatever% of time writing these reviews on here!

I love reading your reviews. Very detailed. And makes me want to read. Good job sir!
 
Agreed! ^
Although if you had boughten a Mustang with the Shaker system.. You'd have door sub's like me. ;)
I personally am just fine with the factory system and I'm a bit of an audiophile myself.
But either way, I'm sure it sounds 10x better now, and your enjoying it so what does it matter?
Pleasure reading as always!
 
Discussion starter · #69 ·
Thanks guys!

Agreed! ^
Although if you had boughten a Mustang with the Shaker system.. You'd have door sub's like me. ;)
I personally am just fine with the factory system and I'm a bit of an audiophile myself.
But either way, I'm sure it sounds 10x better now, and your enjoying it so what does it matter?
Pleasure reading as always!
I don't doubt that the Shaker system is far superior than the Base system. I was just too cheap to purchase a 'well-equipped' GT. :)

Definitely sounds better now. I may upgrade the head-unit sometime in the near future but, I'm still a 'little' untrustworthy of the aftermarket solutions.

Mike
 
Thanks guys!



I don't doubt that the Shaker system is far superior than the Base system. I was just too cheap to purchase a 'well-equipped' GT. :)

Definitely sounds better now. I may upgrade the head-unit sometime in the near future but, I'm still a 'little' untrustworthy of the aftermarket solutions.

Mike
It's better, but not by much... The bass is hugely improved, the volume is a little improved, and that's about it. (Shaker 500... used to own a non-Shaker and a Shaker 1000).

I definitely agree though... I don't trust the aftermarket stuff for these coyotes yet. And they look so chinsy! Even the Raxiom looks... aftermarket. To me, a good aftermarket head unit looks stock and performs better. Plus there are no reviews out there to say anything about the sound quality of these aftermarket units. Ford kinda screwed us over with this whole integrated head unit thing.
 
Discussion starter · #71 ·
^^^^
Sadly, I agree.

Mike

---------- Post added at 10:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 AM ----------

Even improvements can be improved.

With the Whiteline MT82 Transmission cross-member mount bushing installed, I’ve been very pleased with my newfound ability to shift my Mustang at high RPM’s with the OEM shifter. I have not missed a shift since its installation. Without question the Whiteline transmission bushing has proven to be an excellent and inexpensive modification even considering the lone compromise, a small increase in NVH.

Recently, I was surprised to learn about yet another transmission bushing that was being trumpeted as a miss-shift solving solution for the MT82. This new bushing is made by Energy suspension (part #4.1134G) and replaces an existing OEM stabilizer bushing. The good news is the Energy Suspension bushing can be used in combination with the Whiteline bushing.

I felt obligated to purchase and try-out the new Energy Suspension bushing. For under $25, I couldn’t pass on the chance to further secure the MT82 and perhaps boost shifting performance even more.



The Energy Suspension bushing, like the Whiteline bushing, is very easy to install and is accomplished using the same installation procedure. Basically all you need to do is drop the OEM transmission mount cross-member bracket, remove the rear transmission stabilizer bracket, swap the inadequate squishy OEM bushing with the new firm polyurethane Energy bushing and bolt everything back together. Super easy! And with a lift, it only took about 5 minutes.

I must say, the Energy Suspension bushing provides even more stable, solid, smooth, and faster shifts. The overall shifter feel is better and measurably improved. The shifter action is notchy, direct, and much more raw. You can really feel the shifter location and shift-lever placement within the gate as you move from gear to gear.

I honestly no longer have the desire, or feel the need, to upgrade the stock shifter.

But, are there any new trade-offs with the new bushing?

The Whiteline bushing definitely increased NVH. There is no denying it. It was a small increase but, an increase none-the-less, which I found tolerable, only because of the shifting improvements. NVH was a real concern as I swapped the OEM transmission stabilizer sponge for the Energy Suspension bushing. At this point in my build quest, I didn’t want to experience any more noise, vibration, or harshness. I can only deal with so much. Well, I’m very happy to report that there has been absolutely no added NVH. Oh yeah!

Seriously, this combination of aftermarket transmission bushings are a true upgrade and a MUST modification for any MT82 Mustang owner. For around $50 the benefits and improvements are incredible. I highly recommend both bushings, and like I said before in a previous review, you can’t go wrong!

Mike
 
I honestly no longer have the desire, or feel the need, to upgrade the stock shifter.



Mike
Mike, while I usually enjoy simply reading your reviews, I have to say this quote, I feel, needs to be expanded upon. Because I too felt like you with my blue car and "only" a Barton Double Post bracket.

Until I installed my MGW and drove it. I plan on moving up to the Race Spec soon, as it looks to be an even better solution.

But I'll make you an offer. Come drive PCS. I'll ride shotgun. I guarantee you'll rethink this quote.
 
Discussion starter · #73 ·
Mike, while I usually enjoy simply reading your reviews, I have to say this quote, I feel, needs to be expanded upon. Because I too felt like you with my blue car and "only" a Barton Double Post bracket.

Until I installed my MGW and drove it. I plan on moving up to the Race Spec soon, as it looks to be an even better solution.

But I'll make you an offer. Come drive PCS. I'll ride shotgun. I guarantee you'll rethink this quote.
Good post!

At this point, I am perfectly content with the shifting performance with the OEM shifter utilizing the Energy Suspension and Whiteline bushings. However, you could be right. I haven't driven a Mustang with the MGW. If I did, I may have to rethink my position. But, at least for now, I'm ignorant to the need, desire, and potential benefits of the MGW.

If the opportunity arises, I won't hesitate to drive a Mustang with the MGW and further evaluate my current position.

Mike
 
I've been away from the forums for a while... moved to Northern California for work (just down the highway from AED), which with the move has pretty much taken up all of my free time...

Recently, I've been thinking about trading my 14 in for a 16 GT350, a '16 C7/Z51, or perhaps even a '16 C7/Z06 if the wife could be so convinced...but reading Mike's posts have me rethinking that.

Many thanks Mike, for the great write up! You've inspired me to tinker a bit this winter to see if there's some more magic left to be found before checking out the 350GT, or just switching back to the corvette side of the tracks.

Cheers!
 
Discussion starter · #75 ·
^^^^
Good to hear! Thank you. That's quite a compliment.
You're welcome!

I've spent a decent amount of time driving the new C7's. I can honestly tell you, I'm impressed. Love the interior, the handling, the traction, and the speed. Basically, I love the whole package with one exception. The engine.

Even though I really like the GM LS series engines and even the new LT engines, their engines lacks emotion. Don't get me wrong they work, but they are a hammer, in a car that should have a scalpel.

The 5.0 engine has all the character the GM engines lack. I love this engine. It makes driving the Mustang enjoyable and, in this guys opinion, more enjoyable than the Vette.

The new Shelby GT350, man, I don't know, that's going to be an awesome ride!

Mike
 
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