My project will be similar to what you're saying, but I don't know what compression I'll be running. I agree, these types of builds are very cool.

 

Getting it done with "stock" parts is sick as hell IMO

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So you want to remove your edelbrock heads and put stock E7 back on ? Hmmmm well if thats what you want to do then go for it. Kinda of a waste money on that dyno tune you just got though. I thought you worked at a speed shop, i take it that theres no employee discount that would yield you a nice short block and nicer set of heads ?

 

Yeah I know it's kind of a waste... But it was great while it lasted

I do work at a shop that builds engines... And I actually do get a decent discount. Only a few bucks more than cost. I could do a nice Dart 363W short block with an oil pan/pickup/cam/timing chain/timing pointer/bolts etc for 4 grand. I can also get nice new AFR 195/205 heads for 1,550. It's just that a 302 with rods/pistons and stock ported heads will be a lot cheaper than that.

I know there's always the "just save a little more and blah blah blah" but that wouldn't work for me. If I spent the coin on the bottom end, I'm going to damn well use it. Meaning that I will push it further than a stock 302 block can handle because, why did I get it? See what I'm getting at? In order for me to use good parts (in my eyes) I need to use them to their full potential. If I did a 363 with nice heads I would expect 9s out of it on motor. That's too expensive for me. I mean, I COULD do it, but I don't want to sit for a year and a half just collecting parts.

Where I'm from, when we race each other, we get charged for what we have.. Meaning that if I had a Dart block 347/363 on motor and it ran mid 11s, it wouldn't matter because it has a dart block so everyone would think it's WAY faster than that and I wouldn't be able to get a fair race. So I think my stock stuff plan would net some races AND it would be pretty cool on top of it.

Believe me, I've looked into the more expensive builds already and it's just too much damn money.. It's one thing if I could just dump a 7k engine in my car and go 9s, but then I need a built rear which would cost 700ish and I would also need a tranny which would cost 3000+ all said and done as well as a better fuel system, suspension etc.

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I would love to trade my stock heads for your edelbrock - will pay shipping - just saying lol


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Haha these won't be stock E7s...They will have nice port work done along with a slick valve job and good bowl work. Possible bigger valves... Maybe not.

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Sounds like a major PITA to go slow.

 

Not too bad honestly. I have a stock eliminator guy in the shop who will help me so I don't have to snoop for every piece of info on this stuff.

11s with stock **** isn't slow IMO but I see what you're saying... It's still 11s

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LOL, here we go again. I thought you were doing a 347? What is your main goal with your car? To race it? Have a combo that people will think it's slow and show them up? If you want something different, why not throw a s/c on your car now. Or go with an explorer topend with a s/c. Or do a SVO swap, haha.

 

Since I've been working here there's so many ****ing options :lol

I already have Edelbrock heads and an Explorer intake so a blower with a new cam would definitely get me to the point of breaking the block.

Point of the car is going to be to race people and make money doing it. Can't make money if people won't race me.

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Or vortech your current combo and run a little faster than that on a bias ply tire with 15 more mph and be streetable and not need race gas.

 

I wouldn't do crazy compression. I can't afford paying 10 bucks a gallon every time I take the car out.

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i need new heads... Id possibly buy them from ya. Cant till spring/summer though...

 

I've had an idea that would be different. I dont know if anyones done if, and it probably wouldnt work, but i thought id be cool/different/fun to put fords V10 in a Fox. Just because.

 

There's a real good reason that it hasn't been done.

 

The v10 sucks though and gets ridiculously poor mpgs.

 

The v3 doesnt require you to tap the oil pan.

The problem with your theory in regards to making people think you slower then you really are by giving them the impression that you motor is stock ( by visual appearances) ..... is thats only going to work a hand full of times. Once the word gets out then it doesnt matter if your running E7, trick flow, AFR or edelbrocks, the cat with be out of the bag sorta speak. Unless you plan on traveling the country trying to hustle people and dont plan on staying to long, i dont see this working.

 

Grudge racing is a little different...But I still see your point.

At this point I think I'm just gonna go with the cheapest way to go 10s; blower.

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Holy crap! On corral I can snag a complete blower kit (S trim, head unit, all brackets/hoses/pulleys etc) PLUS most people had the kits with a powerpipe/injectors/MAF already for under 2 grand! Add another 1800 or so and ill also have a new cam and a tune. I didn't know it was that cheap for a blower...

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Ive been watching those same kits. Ya theres deals out there right now. Theres always a flood of parts out a tax return time.

 

And from my job I can get a fully assembled 363 SHP Dart block (crank/rods/pistons/rings/bearings/rear seal/timing cover/timing chain/timing cover seal, pan/pickup/pump) for 3500 bucks. I would just need to have it machined and a friend of mine and I would put it together.

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Seems like a fair price. Then all youll need is the top end. I hope you dont plan on putting your heads and intake on a 363 cuz that would be crazy

 

I'm going to look into the vortech. That's why I priced out that short block haha.

I might just sell my stuff once I take it off and then look for new heads and an intake.

Probably something small-ish just to keep cost down. Plus 363 cubes and boost will make up for any induction losses.

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Do a turbo there's a kit I almost grabbed 5 minutes ago, still for sale asking price is 800 add a turbo dp a wg and bov and u got a kit CHEAP


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Nahh. Turbo = No fair race EVER.

When people see a car with a turbo they think it's the fastest thing out there. Can't grudge a turbo car fairly near me.

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Forgot u grudge


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I would just make sure whatever you do will make you happy. Whether you have E7 heads or P&P Twisted Wedge, it's the fastest who gets laid and the fastest that gets paid!

 

HOLLA!!

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Well if Ryan doesn't want it I think I'm going novi 2k


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