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Damage Wheels From Backwards Lug Nuts?

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#1 ·
I took my car in today to get my brakes fixed (it got cold pretty quick here and I'm not freezing my ass off to do the work myself) and I just got a call from the shop. The guy is telling me I put the lug nuts on backwards (the stock ones from the Bullitt rims, looks identical to me on both sides) and the wheels are ruined so he offered to get me prices on some used wheels. I declined that but can you seriously **** up your wheels that badly by "putting the lug nuts on backwards"? I've had the Bullitt wheels back on for a few months and I've done plenty of burnouts and taken hard corners and haven't had a single lug nut come loose (but the mechanic seems to think I'm going to loose a wheel).
 
#3 ·
That's EXACTLY what I was thinking. I know my way around a car, but I'm no expert. But this sounds to me like the shop is just looking to make some extra money. And it's **** like this that reminds me why I normally do all my work myself :eek:
 
#7 ·
Exactly. Usually I'll tackle almost any repair myself but it's just so damn cold I figured I'd take the car in this time. Also, turns out my calipers are fine (even with a hole in each of the pistons) but the brake lines are my issue.

the lugs that came on the stock 2000 v6 wheels can be put on backwards but you can clearly see the difference. One side is flat like a normal bolt and the other side tapers in.

But with my lugs on my saleens there is no way they can be put on backwards.

Do you have pics of how yours are?
I don't have any pics of mine but I've had my wheels off too many times to count. I don't ever remember seeing any difference on any side of the lug nuts. And I'm not sure what year the wheels are, they didn't come stock on the V6.

if the are the luges that come with the bullets then you cannot put the on backwards..they are tapered on one side to fit snuggly into the wheel...the other side is made for the socket...something tells me you mechanic wants to sell some used wheels lol...tis the season to put some extra cash in his pocket...besides i've had a wheel come off my car and it was from lugs too loose (thanks Discount Tire)
Lol my thoughts exactly. When I get my car back tomorrow (doesn't have the parts for the brakes in stock) I'm going to go over all of my lug nuts and make sure they're nice and tight. And I don't think I'll be going back to that shop haha.
 
#5 ·
the lugs that came on the stock 2000 v6 wheels can be put on backwards but you can clearly see the difference. One side is flat like a normal bolt and the other side tapers in.

But with my lugs on my saleens there is no way they can be put on backwards.

Do you have pics of how yours are?
 
#6 ·
if the are the luges that come with the bullets then you cannot put the on backwards..they are tapered on one side to fit snuggly into the wheel...the other side is made for the socket...something tells me you mechanic wants to sell some used wheels lol...tis the season to put some extra cash in his pocket...besides i've had a wheel come off my car and it was from lugs too loose (thanks Discount Tire)
 
#9 ·
I don't see how that could happen unless you have a different rim width on the front than the back. I could understand if you had say 8" wide rims on the front and 9" wide rims on the back and you switched up the lug nuts somehow.

But not really. The lugs would have broken off. I had a set of Centerline Convo Pro's on my 87 fox and they required a special lug nut as well. Like a dumbass I didn't use them and one night i stopped for gas and realized i only had 2 lugs left on the right rear wheel. The other two broke off. The rims were stil fine though. I got the right set of lug nuts and it was all good from then on.
 
#22 ·
That's not really all that uncommon. All the tire places use impact wrenches and if they start them cross threaded, they pound them on there that way. Or they put them on too tight which causes them to seize onto the studs and break.
 
#12 ·
If you put the flat side against the wheel instead of the taper, the lugs could be loose inside the holes and potentially wallowed them out a bit. I would think that damaging the lugs would be much more likely in that situation, though.

So, I'd want to see the exact damage the guy is talking about.
 
#14 ·
I'm gonna check it out when I get the car back tomorrow, but I've had to Bullitts back on my car for the past 4 months without a lug so much as coming loose :dunno

Yes, my guess it that these lugs are used when the centercap covers the lugs so there is no need to make them look nice since they are not seen.

however with bullitt wheels i would think that an acorn type of lugs would be used because they are visable.
These lugs might not be what came with the wheels from the factory because I do agree, acorns would look decent with Bullitts. But these lugs are open on both ends.
 
#17 ·
I had a brake line burst in one of my old cars and totaled it. The shop that looked at the car afterwards told me that i put my calipers on backwards (which i know is not possible) when i changed the front pads and the brake line was rubbing on the wheel. Absolutely ridiculous. Mechanics and dealers will tell you anything to get around the fact that parts do fail.
 
#20 ·
Lmao, you better have him check your headlight fluid while the cars there too... I think the mechanics just trying to pawn off some of his used wheels on you, get your car out of there ASAP, that's what i'd do.
 
#23 ·
Got the car back. They claim they're legally not allowed to install any parts I didn't buy from them but since one of my calipers was damaged and I'd brought 2 new calipers, they put one on and didn't charge me for it (although it was a matter of removing 2 bolts since they were replacing the brake lines). Looked over the wheels and they're fine, although my brakes are no better with new lines and a new caliper (plus new pads and rotors in the Spring). So this was an expensive waste of time :mad:
 
#24 ·
they were the rear calipers right? when i had my tires mounted and balanced in the summer the shop discovered that the pins in my rear calipers werent moving very well. My dad knew they guy so they fixed it for cheap and i didnt notice a difference in braking. The front brakes do like 85% of the work.
 
#25 ·
If its an acorn style lug, there is only one side w/ female threads ... so impossible

Stock style, like they said, has a tappered end. If put in backwards, It would have not secured the wheel correctly. Allowing play in the wheel, maybe a vibration. Probably not noticable to driving yet. That in itself could have damaged the hole where the lug stud goes through the wheel, by allowing friction against the nut. How that caused such a problem in such little time that you ruined your wheels ... I dont see that as true...
Get them back on "correctly", observe each and every lug stud, lug nut, and the holes of your rims. Take pictures, and fill us in.