any of you guys have the intake spacer installed? Specifically the one made out of G10 you notice the gains they claim of 4-7 rwhp with 6lbs of tq on a dyno?
Juggalo_X
im making my own here is another good readEl_Cangri said:
just make sure u use G10 http://www.3.8mustang.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101818its bullshit...just like throttle spacers...they dont create more air flow...if anything it interupts it....if they were proven so handy why do we port and polish w.e we can ?.......why did i polish my dual throttle body to feel a lot smoother then it was ? y dont we have spirals everywhere on the internals ? yeah if it causes a spiral affect cool...so does a football when thrown proper
think about it...an inch of space wont cause more power or cooler temps....
the air is just going to flow right through that like its a longer pipe...
it truly is just an inch of added space
nothing behind it is solid thats just like getting a longer cold air intake...
and really how could you imagine it to work
whats the formula for hp
more fuel and more air=more power
that provides no extra air...nor fuel
i could understand someone thinking the turbonator works because it'd spin like a fan cause more air "in theory"
the air is just going to flow right through that like its a longer pipe...
it truly is just an inch of added space
nothing behind it is solid thats just like getting a longer cold air intake...
and really how could you imagine it to work
whats the formula for hp
more fuel and more air=more power
that provides no extra air...nor fuel
i could understand someone thinking the turbonator works because it'd spin like a fan cause more air "in theory"
think about it...an inch of space wont cause more power or cooler temps....
the air is just going to flow right through that like its a longer pipe...
it truly is just an inch of added space
nothing behind it is solid thats just like getting a longer cold air intake...
and really how could you imagine it to work
whats the formula for hp
more fuel and more air=more power
that provides no extra air...nor fuel
i could understand someone thinking the turbonator works because it'd spin like a fan cause more air "in theory"
the air is just going to flow right through that like its a longer pipe...
it truly is just an inch of added space
nothing behind it is solid thats just like getting a longer cold air intake...
and really how could you imagine it to work
whats the formula for hp
more fuel and more air=more power
that provides no extra air...nor fuel
i could understand someone thinking the turbonator works because it'd spin like a fan cause more air "in theory"
I'm no expert, but I believe all the spacer is doing to cool the upper intake is isolating it from the lower intake. By that I mean the G10 just disrupts the heat conduction between the two halves of the intake which, while cooling your upper intake, throttle body, and CAI, leaves more heat in your lower intake and components further south. Goodie, your air is colder longer, but it'll still get heated up real nice when it enters the lower intake, right? In theory you get slightly denser air, but the difference would be entirely negligible... Oh, and your lower intake and pretty much everything below it is running a bit warmer.Juggalo_X said:
Just a thought though... I may be wrong. And of course that's all under the assumption that it's the cooler temperatures causing these supposed gains. I'm not even going to touch the issue of runner length...
The walls of intake spacers are smooth, not spiraled like those cheesy throttle body spacers. Totally different concept...02ponypackage said:
Imo, Chris has the right idea.
... all it does is scramble the rpm band a bit... well the way the air flows...
as stated in this paragraph of junk
" 'Resonance' is defined as a vibration. It's the action of moving back and forth. Air in your intake manifold resonates or moves back and forth with the opening and closing of your intake valves. It does not move in a straight line from the air filter to the cylinder at all times as so many people believe. When the intake valve opens, air is pulled into the cylinder by the low pressure created from the downward movement of the piston. When the intake valve closes, the air in the intake is still moving forward towards the valve. There is nothing driving it but inertia at this point. It slams up against the closed intake valve and creates an area of high pressure. This high pressure is then reflected as a wave back up the runner away from the valve. When the pressure wave reaches the intake plenum (a common area shared by all the intake runners), it is then reflected back down the runner towards the valve again. If this pressure wave approaches the valve as it is open, then it will help flow more air into the cylinder. It will actually push more air into the cylinder than the cylinder could suck in by itself. The valve closes and the process repeats again. This whole process results in increased volumetric efficiency (more air entering the cylinders than normal). Since your engine is nothing but a large air pump, more air = more horsepower/torque. The intake runner must be properly sized (length and width) in order to enable the pressure wave to arrive back at the intake valve as it opens for the next cycle. The only drawback of this is that the "resonance tuning" is only effective in a precise RPM band."
this device claims to respace the resonance... which just moves the time at which the split port is most effective... at what power band this device works best is unknown to myself... i personally only see it as something for naturally aspirated and N2O engines... as those have a natural cfm that the engine was designed for...
logically this idea makes since... practically i have yet to see this device in the "feild" actually working and doing what its suppose to ...
by no means am i discouraging you from trying this device... as it seems a sound use of money for it actually has a logical explanation rather then ... 'well we think it makes the air more turbulent' ... im all for it
as stated in this paragraph of junk
" 'Resonance' is defined as a vibration. It's the action of moving back and forth. Air in your intake manifold resonates or moves back and forth with the opening and closing of your intake valves. It does not move in a straight line from the air filter to the cylinder at all times as so many people believe. When the intake valve opens, air is pulled into the cylinder by the low pressure created from the downward movement of the piston. When the intake valve closes, the air in the intake is still moving forward towards the valve. There is nothing driving it but inertia at this point. It slams up against the closed intake valve and creates an area of high pressure. This high pressure is then reflected as a wave back up the runner away from the valve. When the pressure wave reaches the intake plenum (a common area shared by all the intake runners), it is then reflected back down the runner towards the valve again. If this pressure wave approaches the valve as it is open, then it will help flow more air into the cylinder. It will actually push more air into the cylinder than the cylinder could suck in by itself. The valve closes and the process repeats again. This whole process results in increased volumetric efficiency (more air entering the cylinders than normal). Since your engine is nothing but a large air pump, more air = more horsepower/torque. The intake runner must be properly sized (length and width) in order to enable the pressure wave to arrive back at the intake valve as it opens for the next cycle. The only drawback of this is that the "resonance tuning" is only effective in a precise RPM band."
this device claims to respace the resonance... which just moves the time at which the split port is most effective... at what power band this device works best is unknown to myself... i personally only see it as something for naturally aspirated and N2O engines... as those have a natural cfm that the engine was designed for...
logically this idea makes since... practically i have yet to see this device in the "feild" actually working and doing what its suppose to ...
by no means am i discouraging you from trying this device... as it seems a sound use of money for it actually has a logical explanation rather then ... 'well we think it makes the air more turbulent' ... im all for it
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