I do what your friend does, clutch in and drop it into 3rd aswell as rev matching at the same time. As for pressing on the gas before the clutch is not all the way out. Err...don't do that.

 

Oh okay. So if I don't step on the gas before the clutch is not all the way out, how am I supposed to gain speed right away? I ask because when my friend showed me some techniques when I first got the car, he did it in a way that the car "popped" or pulled forward immediately as he downshifted. But I can't seem to do that unless I step on the gas before the clutch is not all the way out.

 

yep, I do what your friend does.

 

heel toe?

 

Ohh I do heel toe when I'm slowing down and turning. But I don't think braking will help you gain speed to pass someone..lol.

 

If you hit the gas before releasing the clutch completely, you will cause excessive clutch slip and reduce its life significantly (if you do that a lot)

 

I know it causes excessive wear on the clutch. And I haven't done it many times. I am just trying to figure out what is normal so I don't keep doing it.

Are you sure I have to wait until the clutch is COMPLETLEY out? I didn't realize until now but even when I shift normally (up or down) I start stepping on the gas when the clutch is 70-80% out....and the only reason is because if I let go off the clutch too fast, the car would jerk a little bit due to the "shock". But if I don't get ready to step on gas, the car will slow down a little too much between shifts...

 

Nah off course there is a little over lap. Like you said, if you let out entirely, it will buck/jerk badly. You basically have to feel it out. Apply gas as the clutch engages. After a little while it will be second nature and you wont even think about it. Basically youre trying to avoid the rpms climbing and then suddenly dropping after the clutch catches. Im sure you know what i mean. Hard to describe in text lol. Dont over think it and have a blast driving that thing

 

What do yall mean by rev matching

 

Depends on why I am downshifting.

Slowing down: Clutch, change gear, let clutch out easy, no gas.
Race: Clutch, change gear (mostly from 5th to 3rd), let clutch out and hit the gas about the same time.

I got 92k miles on the stock clutch and I don't think I ever really rev matched. Drag raced, drive it year round, did some street racing back in the day. I go by feel, if it doesn't feel right, if it feels right but that's just how I am.

 

Wow...No rev match? idk but whenever I don't rev match, the engine will get a little noisy or whiny, almost as if to say it doens't like it lol
I have downshifted without rev matching by accident before and sometimes it'd whine real badly or sometimes not to bad (i guess it depends on how fast i was going)

 

Mine never whined. The motor will rev up to match the rpms with the speed of the trans when the clutch is back engaged, but that's about it.

 

If you can heel toe in a 2011 you've got some small ****ing feet, but I guess wearing 16's doesn't help either.

I rev match like your friend.

 

Only time I find myself making a deliberate effort to rev match is when I'm braking (heel'n'toe). Otherwise, I'm lazy shifting with medium (not slow, but not dropped) clutching. Just enough accelerator blip during clutch engagement that it doesn't shock the transmission.


Heel-and-toe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
You should probably read this.

 

you got me thinking how i down shift.. it just came natural but now thinking about it, i rev match at the same time im going into gear.

What do yall mean by rev matching

when downshifting, your car will go into higher rpms. what you do is rev your engine before you go into gear in order to help the transmission and engine match at the same speed, therefore making the downshifts alot smoother, stopping weight transfer, and improving your times

 

Once you get past the friction point the clutch is probably 85% engaged. The momentary overlap after this point won't shorten your clutch life all that much. If you find yourself making the next shift and still havent fully released the pedal you might have some problems or you never get it all the way to the floor.. Your biggest concern should be how you hit that friction point and how you are releasing from it. The rest of the pedal travel is really trivial.. That's my views anyway.

 

slowing down I let the clutch out slowly so the car doesn't jerk but passing i rev match. It's a very natural motion after you have driven stick for a while.

 

this is what i do. rev match if accelerating and if just cruising i just let out the clutch slowly after the cars just kinda coasting down the road

 

I would just like to say that this thread made me miss 3rd gear today. Got me thinking too much about shifting, clutch, revs, and soo on. lol

 

lol i guess the seasonal weather is finally working in my advantage because by time I take the stang back out I will have hopefully forgotten about this convo!!!

 

Back out? mehh, you can drive it year round. :yes

 

ok since this thread it up how should you technically shift into any gear? lol

 

grind it till you find it.

 

I would just like to say that this thread made me miss 3rd gear today. Got me thinking too much about shifting, clutch, revs, and soo on. lol

LOL. I'm sorry about that....yeah that happens to me too. I feel like I drive a lot better when I don't think about it too much. I'm still fairly new at driving manual and every time I'm stopped at an incline and there's someone behind me (hate it when they're so close), I either end up giving a bit too much gas or stall.

ok since this thread it up how should you technically shift into any gear? lol

...Um...Lol are you being serious or...do you drive an automatic?

 

Im a lil confused by the OPs post. Down shifting doesnt take very long.

I usually blip the throttle and slip it into gear and let the clutch out all together. Not all at once but as soon as the RPMs are up the gears will "want" to mesh and then the clutch comes out. The point of rev match is to allow the gears to mesh easier and give a smooth shift.

I'm still fairly new at driving manual and every time I'm stopped at an incline and there's someone behind me (hate it when they're so close), I either end up giving a bit too much gas or stall.

Practice makes perfect, you'll get it in time. I heel toe down shift with out even thinking about it just driving normally.

Depends on why I am downshifting.

Slowing down: Clutch, change gear, let clutch out easy, no gas.
Race: Clutch, change gear (mostly from 5th to 3rd), let clutch out and hit the gas about the same time.

I got 92k miles on the stock clutch and I don't think I ever really rev matched. Drag raced, drive it year round, did some street racing back in the day. I go by feel, if it doesn't feel right, if it feels right but that's just how I am.

Mine never whined. The motor will rev up to match the rpms with the speed of the trans when the clutch is back engaged, but that's about it.

Down shifting from 5th to 3rd and not rev matchin shouldnt feel good. Having the car nose dive while your letting the clutch out should feel good. Plus your straining your whole drivetrain unnecessarily.

 

just takes practice. you'll be fine.

 

Slowing down: Clutch, change gear, let clutch out easy, no gas.

 

I will say this. Driving a mustang in snow will help you to learn clutch control.

 

My car would spin the tires at idle in the snow.

 

haha I have a feeling the 3.73 gears would probably make it even worse in the snow. I'd much rather make the car last and not take my chances

 

Just putting this out there...you all suck because I decided to take the new ride out a few times here and there since there's a break in weather and now every time I do I'm thinking about my shifting haha

 

no snow here, but i heel with almost every shift. blip in gear of clutch, try and smooth it out as much as possible (unless i am racing off the lights