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most out of a V6

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#1 ·
Hey people - Ok here is my question.......Me and buddy both have 2006
V6 Mustangs (mine looks better then his (pictures coming soon :D) and he asked me "what is the most HP I can get out of this car with upgrades in order - He said I want to max this car out without changing the engine or transmission which is an automatic I have a big pay raise coming my way so money shouldn’t be a problem…" I said you are asking the wrong guy the only upgrade I did to my car was add the v6 dual exhaust kit... I would like to do more but due to life’s other priorities my upgrades have to wait... what are the best items I guess he can add and swapout?

Thank you…
 
#2 ·
You need to get a power adder to get even close to "maxing it out" turbocharger, supercharger, 100 shot of nitrous. Your looking in the field of 4grand for a turbo or super and about 1 grand for a good nitrous setup. If your looking for horsepower and not just accelertation, go turbo.

Long tube headers, Underdive pullys, a windstar intake,tuner ,will add a little each but all of these will really add up.

If you really want your car to be fast and not just boost your cars ego by how much hp it has, get gears and tlok. This will greatly increese your acceleration but wont give you any hp. A tlok will also make both wheels have equal power and increese handing by alot, you dont wanna have like 300 hp without the tlok. A tuner will alter the automatic shifting points and greatly increese your acceleration, a shift kit will help make shifts faster also.

If I where you do this

1.Intake +Tuner
2.Gears+Tlok
3.Poweradder

Then your set
 
#13 ·
A tlok will also make both wheels have equal power and increese handing by alot, you dont wanna have like 300 hp without the tlok.
I thought the 05's and older already had tloks in them. But I really could be wrong being i have no idea why i thought this. :cool:
 
#3 ·
I agree with matt. Gears by far will give the biggest gain as far as bolt ons. As far as serious power you could get cams and ported heads. Nitrous will be the cheapest power adder, but if you are looking for power all the time go either turbo or supercharger. turbos will make more power per pound of boost than a supercharger, but have a slight lag, sc make more low end power. If you have an 06 have you looked into the xcharger? they are a blower for your car and make decent torque and hp.
 
#21 ·
If he sets his goal though, he can have a turbo setup that will hardly have any lag. And will out-accelerate a supercharged car anyday. I would go with a turbo, just because (assuming running 8 lbs) at 3k rpms you would have 8lbs of boost with a turbo or ~4lbs of boost with a supercharger. And I think you cn decide which one will be pulling harder at 3k. Then the pre boost problem could be solved with a higher stall tq converter.
 
#4 ·
Okay work with me.....being that I dont know much about cars isn't nitrous a quick boost for a limited time if racing? I guess sustained speed is what's being looked at... what about air intake systems, throttles and other things like that as well?
I really need to learn about cars... (ugh)
 
#5 ·
Nitrous is a shot, good for us cheap bastards. Turbo if you just want speed on the highway to blow peoples doors in sounds good. Nitrous and Superchargers are mainly for acclerating from a stop.
Air intakes are great but throttle bodys are a finishing up mods.
 
#6 ·
bain1970;2672930...... I have a big pay raise coming my way so money shouldn’t be a problem…. [/QUOTE said:
If that is the case I would find a machine shop to work the car over and like everybody else said gears, tune, supercharger, intake etc...

But then you have to think about do I really want to spend 8k on this car when I can go buy a stock car that would probably out perform it for less?
 
#7 ·
ok on a side not does the throttle mm have to equal the intake system mm? does that make any sense at all?
 
#8 ·
ok, we are going to assume that you want to mod your six. I would go on the regional forums on here and see if anyone knows of good speed shops in your area. Then you can go discuss with them what your goals are for the car. They can give you better price estimates and steer you in the correct direction
 
#14 ·
No we have open diffeintial bullshit, all v6's have the one tire fire. If you went and tryed to do a burnout now, only one wheel would spin.
 
#16 ·
Thanks all - I will tell you one thing.... Reading your posts will definitely teach me a thing or two..... who said having a mustang can’t be for educational purposes...
 
#19 ·
hey just for shits and giggles (yes i said it shits and giggles) you "should" run your cars i dentical so you can brag about who the better driver is. if the cars are nearly identical in most aspects it all comes down to the drive in an auto cuz just to be an @$$hole i "quick shift in my auto and it really does kinda help

(at a stop put the auto in "1" then at about 3500-3750 max push it into "2" then "D" aka 3rd then for me OD or 4th. and im doing al this in an auto. it kinds puts more stress then usuall on the trans but it has an upside, you can control your shirt points in stead of the computer doing it for ya.)
 
#20 ·
Turbos make the most power, but they lag. If you just concerned about the power you can put down and you dont car about accelration from a dig then turbo is hands down the best way to go. If your concerned about the acceleration from a dig, superchargers dont lag so thats the way to go.
 
#22 ·
Turbocharge the stock motor and get an 8.8 rear end with 3.55 gears. This will make what the stock internals are safe at, which is about 340-350rwhp. Then you can save up for other things later if you still want more power.

Getting a cai and boltons and h/c/I is a waste if all your wanting is a 350rwhp car. Cause your going to have to go blown to get there anyway. Hpp made 374rwhp on 9psi on a stock motor. Just to give you an idea what a good turbo setup is capable of.
 
#26 ·
Turbo and supercharger are always there. The boost will depend on how much you want. Mostly 11psi is the standard on stock motor. Centrifical superchargers won't hit max boost until around the 5k rpm marker. The turbo done right should be full boost well under 4k rpm and this will also depend on how big of turbo is used.
 
#28 ·
Ok If I wanted to go Turbo what would i exactly would I need? Because of money I can't do it not but for future reference.... I guess.........
what website sells what I need? also is true the price range could be into the thousands??? whoa...
 
#29 ·
The cheapest you'll get away with FI for (with more than ~270rwhp) is ~$2200. You'll be at well over that, not doing work yourself. Here's A list off the top of my head what you'll need, I'm probably forgetting some stuff. This is for a turbo:
-Intercooler & Piping ($210)
-MAF of some kind (at least $150)
-Blow off valve (at least $130)
-Injectors, Fuel Pump (probably ~280)
-Precision Turbo& tial wastegate (a little over $1000)
-Hot Sode Piping-Custom, depends where you go and what you want (at least $450 or so I'd say, I'll be making my own with the stock headers switched)
-Oil feed,drain(~$75)
-Dyno Tune (~$400)
-A couple gauges to be safe, depends what all you get (at least ~$100)
-Random crap you'll probably need-$100
-days of work-priceless lol
 
#33 ·
I'm guessing $2200 is on the cheap side (priceless - lol) ok do you have a few websites (that won't rob people blind) that sells this as a kit or do i have to purchase them seperate..thx..
 
#30 ·
Just going to throw in some thoughts here and hopefully someone will chime in and correct me if I'm wrong (which I usually am, 90% of the time...lol)

Anyways, myself, I would go with an X-Charger (super charger). Why? Because it's a very easy kit that most anyone that knows a wrench from pliers can put on themselves. Yes, expect to pay about $5K (a bit under) for the kit, but the kit is complete and it'll gain you about 100 HP. In the long term I think a Turbo is better for the engine, but I haven't seen a well put together kit yet. If there is a Turbo kit similar to the X-charger kit, please let us know and where on the Internet to find it. Both a SC or Turbo isn't going to waste your gas mileage unless you have your foot in it all the time...lol...In fact some have seen an improvement in MPG when driving normally. Now, either/or will give you the HP you want and you'll be able to take stock GT's with no sweat. But once you have your SC or Turbo, you're going to need a new rear end (8.8) and a Tloc. One of the best things you can do at this point is get an all aluminum one-piece drive shaft. The ones we have now (stock) are two piece and not made of aluminum. In fact if you don't add the SC or Turbo, just putting in a one-piece aluminum drive shaft will not only increase your HP (maybe by 20) it will make your ride do things you couldn't before. You'd be amazed at what a decent drive shaft can do for our Stangs. I've got a bunch more but have to get going right now. I'll be back with a bit more and to read any replies to my thoughts.
 
#31 ·
The main difference will also be the turbo will make a lot more than the x charger will for around the same money. 5k is a lot for a roots kit. A well done turbo will put a stock 4.0L motor at it's internal safe zone which is around 350rwhp and make full boost faster than a centrifical. not to mention have more room to grow. But it will all depend on what power you are wanting.

x-charger kit will allow you to keep up 05+ Gt's and the turbo will allow you to pull them hard.
 
#34 ·
well, I'm not sure if tmaturbo.com will be making them soon again or not. If they don't it's basically buy all the parts and take them to a shop to have put together if you're not doing it yourself, which saves a ton of money. As long as you're not tearing into the engine, there isn't anything really too complicated at all about installing a turbo setup once you've got the hot side set up (which in my opinion is the only thing you could NEED a shop to do, other than tuning).
 
#35 · (Edited)
Thank you - I will check this site out...and even if they don't have it atleast now have a breakdown of the items I need which i am assuming is in the post above......
thx everyone for your help