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I took my 302 to the local builder and had a 347 stroker kit put in. I used blue ford roller rockers, probe dish pistons, b303 cam but decided to replace it with a e303 (not in yet), Vortech V1 supercharger, ported and polished my GT40 heads, bbk shorties, trickflow trackheat upper and lower intake with a 70mm throttle body, 42lb injectors, c&L 73mm mass air (i can just change the calibration tube to match the injectors right?) flexlite electric radiator fan, canton 7qt oil pan with rear side kickouts, 255 weldon fuel pump in the tank, RAM 28oz. flywheel, RAM HD clutch, I know i'm missing a few things but will have them before going to the shop for the tune/dyno, no distributor/wires/ignition box/fuel regulator/fuel rail/air intake (deciding on what to get). Compression 9 to 1?? I don't know the specific's because I never owned a V8 and i'm doing this pretty much on my own and hope when I take it to the tuner i'll be able to make all this work. As for amount of boost, under 10lbs.?

This is my weekend car for street/strip. 400-450ish HP to the wheels will make me happy. I will be working on the brakes/sub frame connectors..dialing in the suspension, upgrading to 5 lug.

I'm a newbie so don't beat me up to much. I'm here to learn and make some friends. What are your recommendations or opinions?
 
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sleepy93 said:
I haven't heard any positive things about my C&l. I'm looking to possibly replace it with a pro m. I'll look into it.

Thanks!
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Yea. The problem is that the bigger the injector gets, the smaller the sample tube gets. The smaller sample tubes are less accurate, and more likely to be skewed by turbulance and things like that.
 
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The original oil pan was damaged. I like Canton, i wanted more oil. The kickouts help because the car is lowered. It's my first build and never owned a V8 before.

Californias freeways are notorious for damaging oil pans and undercarriage components, especially when peoples junk comes onto the freeway.

Thanks
 
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sleepy93 said:
I took my 302 to the local builder and had a 347 stroker kit put in. I used blue ford roller rockers, probe dish pistons, b303 cam but decided to replace it with a e303 (not in yet), Vortech V1 supercharger, ported and polished my GT40 heads, bbk shorties, trickflow trackheat upper and lower intake with a 70mm throttle body, 42lb injectors, c&L 73mm mass air (i can just change the calibration tube to match the injectors right?) flexlite electric radiator fan, canton 7qt oil pan with rear side kickouts, 255 weldon fuel pump in the tank, RAM 28oz. flywheel, RAM HD clutch, I know i'm missing a few things but will have them before going to the shop for the tune/dyno, no distributor/wires/ignition box/fuel regulator/fuel rail/air intake (deciding on what to get). Compression 9 to 1?? I don't know the specific's because I never owned a V8 and i'm doing this pretty much on my own and hope when I take it to the tuner i'll be able to make all this work. As for amount of boost, under 10lbs.?

This is my weekend car for street/strip. 400-450ish HP to the wheels will make me happy. I will be working on the brakes/sub frame connectors..dialing in the suspension, upgrading to 5 lug.

I'm a newbie so don't beat me up to much. I'm here to learn and make some friends. What are your recommendations or opinions?
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1st off you have an aftermarket cam and roller rockers. I assume you took the cam card to the machine shop and them show you the proper springs to buy? If not, on 10psi as soon as it sees above 4500 it will want to float the valves.

Why are you asking compression if the stroker kit is already in place?

Buy a stock oil pump and stock pan or I'm sure you will have a world of problems.

Get a msd blaster coil and be done with it.

Get an lmaf like I said with ford green top 42lbers.

Your car should make 500 to the tire on 10 psi or burn it.
 
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flattusmaximus78 said:
1st off you have an aftermarket cam and roller rockers. I assume you took the cam card to the machine shop and them show you the proper springs to buy? If not, on 10psi as soon as it sees above 4500 it will want to float the valves.

Why are you asking compression if the stroker kit is already in place?

Buy a stock oil pump and stock pan or I'm sure you will have a world of problems.

Get a msd blaster coil and be done with it.

Get an lmaf like I said with ford green top 42lbers.

Your car should make 500 to the tire on 10 psi or burn it.
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More oil for better cooling... duh!!! Good choice on ditching the stocker especially in the SoCal heat. I'm sure he won't hit 500 to the tire with what he has but should fall in his estimate of 400 to 450. I'm gonna guess 425ish.

C&L is crap in my opinion... you can't go wrong with the lightning MAF
Some better heads would do you wonders, but if you paid to get them worked, you can live with it till you can swing a better set.
 
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You guys are awsome. Just the right information I wanted to hear! It supported all the hours of reading.

MustangMatt, your right. To resolve that I might go with AFR's at a later time

Nolife, your right too. I'm a dummy

Flattus, thanks!!! Yes, the springs were replaced. Got the 42's and will look into the MAF

FastStang, right on the money

I'm getting there, looking at trickflows Trackheat Upper & Lower Intake/70mm throttle body...nice
 
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I have pheads, fcam, and a stock cobra intake... I made 400 hp stopping the pull at 5000 rpms cause my valve springs were toast so we aborted the run. Valve springs with over 150,000 miles on them, mind you. If I had a 347 on the same 10psi I would drive it off the grand canyon If that extra 800 rpms in the pull didn't get me to 500 plus.

Stick with the budget parts. The car is going to make way to much power being a stroker and a vortech regardless of a bad top end.
 
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I fail to see how a larger oil pan is bad?

I do wonder why in the hell people are still buying alphabet cams though? Technology has come a long ways since those were released, and there are so many better options out there.
 
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the one thing that stuck out to me is the cam. i agree with 69fastback. the cam selecti.on is so much greater than the alphabet cams. i got my whole valve train from the same place, AFM. great people to deal with, but you know your gettign the right cam for your engine, the right springs for your cam, right rockers for your cam, and the right length pushrods. i guess the heads will be your weak point, but with 10psi your still ganna make good power.
 
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69fastback said:
I fail to see how a larger oil pan is bad?

I do wonder why in the hell people are still buying alphabet cams though? Technology has come a long ways since those were released, and there are so many better options out there.
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I fail to see how it's good? What is the purpose of an extra 3 quarts of oil?

The heads don't flow at all. Getting a better cam for his combo would involve getting better heads.

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the one thing that stuck out to me is the cam. i agree with 69fastback. the cam selecti.on is so much greater than the alphabet cams. i got my whole valve train from the same place, AFM. great people to deal with, but you know your gettign the right cam for your engine, the right springs for your cam, right rockers for your cam, and the right length pushrods. i guess the heads will be your weak point, but with 10psi your still ganna make good power.
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Ding ding ding.
 
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flattusmaximus78 said:
I fail to see how it's good? What is the purpose of an extra 3 quarts of oil?

The heads don't flow at all. Getting a better cam for his combo would involve getting better heads.



Ding ding ding.
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It's pretty common for cars that see a lot of track time. There are multiple benefits, such as increased cooling, and as the car accellerates, it's less likely to suffer from oil starvation as the oil moves to the rear of the pan, just to name two off the top of my head. So, what are some reasons to not put a larger pan on?

And a better cam for the combo will always make better power. I didn't say anything about bigger, and I can guarantee there are cams that will make more power than that letter cam, especially with a blower.
 
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69fastback said:
It's pretty common for cars that see a lot of track time. There are multiple benefits, such as increased cooling, and as the car accellerates, it's less likely to suffer from oil starvation as the oil moves to the rear of the pan, just to name two off the top of my head. So, what are some reasons to not put a larger pan on?

And a better cam for the combo will always make better power. I didn't say anything about bigger, and I can guarantee there are cams that will make more power than that letter cam, especially with a blower.
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Increased cooling... Stock is plenty of cooling. Oil starvation... how would the car suffer from oil starvation?

I didn't say bigger either, so we can pretend that it never came up. There's no point in wasting money on a better cam when he has gt40's.
 
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