BBK Shorty Headers?

MacDizzle · Oct 30, 2011

Well for one

Well for one louder probly means more air flow out the pipe so I would tend to think that it made some more power.

GreyWarrior07 said:
How? Because it made your car louder?

F8L GT · Oct 30, 2011

Louder does not mean more power. You can make it loud and at the same time lose power

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MacDizzle · Oct 30, 2011

How come?

How come? are you saying new shorties are going to take power?

How much power do you think I will be making with all my stuff? Check it out!

MMR Street Mod 750SE 4.75 Liter 2V Longblock (up to 750 RWHP) Entry level forged MMR Street Mod 750 4.75 liter stroker shortblock with Forged Manley Pistons, 4340 Forged I-Beam Rods w/ARP bolts, fully balanced and blueprinted in a Brand new 03/O4 Cobra Block, and fully assembled with new Ford Motorsport PI heads, MMR/Felpro head gaskets, New factory Ford Motorsport Valves, springs, retainers, lifters, roller followers with factory PI cams professionally timed/degreed with new timing chains,guides, tensioners and a Ford Racing High Volume oil pump.

Professional Products Typhoon Power Plus+ Intake Manifold with 75mm Throttle body and Plenum, BBK Cold Air, Diablosport Predator tuner, Diablosport MAFia Mass Air Meter,180 Degree Thermostat, 2"Fluidyne High Performance Aluminum Radiator, Mac Chrome Radiator Hose Kit, Optima Red Cap Battery, Centreforce Dual Friction Clutch, Flowmaster Super 44's, Maximum Motorsports Full Length Subframe Connectors.

Compression is 9:5:1 (Kept it here for future forced Induction)
Pistons have been notched also.

F8L GT said:
Louder does not mean more power. You can make it loud and at the same time lose power

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F8L GT · Oct 30, 2011

I didn't say that, all I said because something is louder, it doesn't mean you have more power. The shorties will flow a little better but most likely will not add wnough power to justify the cost than the stick manifolds

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MikeJones · Oct 30, 2011

MacDizzle said:
How come? are you saying new shorties are going to take power?

How much power do you think I will be making with all my stuff? Check it out!

MMR Street Mod 750SE 4.75 Liter 2V Longblock (up to 750 RWHP) Entry level forged MMR Street Mod 750 4.75 liter stroker shortblock with Forged Manley Pistons, 4340 Forged I-Beam Rods w/ARP bolts, fully balanced and blueprinted in a Brand new 03/O4 Cobra Block, and fully assembled with new Ford Motorsport PI heads, MMR/Felpro head gaskets, New factory Ford Motorsport Valves, springs, retainers, lifters, roller followers with factory PI cams professionally timed/degreed with new timing chains,guides, tensioners and a Ford Racing High Volume oil pump.

Professional Products Typhoon Power Plus+ Intake Manifold with 75mm Throttle body and Plenum, BBK Cold Air, Diablosport Predator tuner, Diablosport MAFia Mass Air Meter,180 Degree Thermostat, 2"Fluidyne High Performance Aluminum Radiator, Mac Chrome Radiator Hose Kit, Optima Red Cap Battery, Centreforce Dual Friction Clutch, Flowmaster Super 44's, Maximum Motorsports Full Length Subframe Connectors.

Compression is 9:5:1 (Kept it here for future forced Induction)
Pistons have been notched also.

You'd be lucky to have anymore than 270 to the wheels.

99 blk gt · Oct 30, 2011

A buddy of mine put Down 273 and 310 with similar bolt ons with stock internals and same shorty headers. His gain was 13/15 to the wheels over stock manifolds the main difference is the average hp gained he showed gains of 18 hp at certain rpm ranges so his over all power band was stronger much more low end tq and power where long tubes add 22/25 hp/tq and make the curve much thicker compared to shortys they also loose low end and move the power band to higher rpms. The gain over st

quiksilver225 · Oct 30, 2011

im not reading any responses, because im lazy. im just gonna give u my wn response, lol. i have BBK LT headers. the ceramic coating lasted about 2 months, no bullshit. they are total trash. BBK ive found makes some pretty shitty products for the most part. just being honest, man. if you want a nice set of headers ur gonna have to drop a nice bundle of cash. look into getting stainless ones or something that has a higher quality coating on it. if you want the best then you want KOOKS.

99 blk gt · Oct 30, 2011

Stock manifold and stock x pipe is night and day u can add 25 hp to the wheels with shorty headers and an off road x pipe and that's nothing to laugh. Yes long tubEs add more but maybe 22-25 compared to 13/15 so on a 300 hp car that a 3% difference in the end so is that worth 350-700$ dollars for long tubes used/new and then 500-700$ for the install compared to 300$ for a shorty install and 200-350$ for the headers themselves so in the end if u already have them it's not worth it to buy long tubes and a shorty x pipe then selling the shorty headers and long x pipe u will be wasting money for a 3% gain l. Bought the exact same BBK headers for 75$ brand new off craigs list from a dude who blew his motor and never used them. So the deals are out there.

quiksilver225 · Oct 30, 2011

99 blk gt said:
Stock manifold and stock x pipe is night and day u can add 25 hp to the wheels with shorty headers and an off road x pipe and that's nothing to laugh. Yes long tubEs add more but maybe 22-25 compared to 13/15 so on a 300 hp car that a 3% difference in the end so is that worth 350-700$ dollars for long tubes used/new and then 500-700$ for the install compared to 300$ for a shorty install and 200-350$ for the headers themselves so in the end if u already have them it's not worth it to buy long tubes and a shorty x pipe then selling the shorty headers and long x pipe u will be wasting money for a 3% gain l. Bought the exact same BBK headers for 75$ brand new off craigs list from a dude who blew his motor and never used them. So the deals are out there.

my head hurts...

what is a stock x pipe??? and on what planet will a bolt on car gain 20+ at the wheels from headers?

quiksilver225 · Oct 30, 2011

nevermind. i wash my hands of this. i always hated header threads. im going back to something involving suspension where there are no power arguments to be made, lol.

if you want to pay for more noise, get LT headers. thats what i did. am i glad i did it? well... thats a whole different discussion. dont buy an exhaust expecting to make more power, you buy a super charger or turbo or spray or gears if you want to go faster. choose your exhaust for the sound, nothing else.

Smilieboy · Oct 30, 2011

Jazzer The Cat said:
I HATE all you bastards that live outside Cali and can have actual engine mods for increased performance

2001SilvrGT · Oct 30, 2011

Durr4456 said:
Ceramic holds up better don't they?

yeah the heat

Durr4456 · Oct 30, 2011

^thank you^

limited · Oct 30, 2011

on a n/a motor, longtubes give more power than shorties because of the scavenging. On a forced induction motor the difference between the 2 is reduced dramaticaly. In fact a lot of people over on modular fords was making more power with the shorties than longtubes on KB cars.I am going with shorties mainly because of emissions so I can install my stock midpipe and for ground clearance. I have had longtubes on just about every car I have had and although I loved the sound, i don't think one set did not at least smash the bottom tubes on the ground. a lot of money to grind the pavement lol

MacDizzle · Oct 30, 2011

Its not about power

the reason im buying new headers is because i had a blown head gasket for a long time. Now im getting a new motor and the stock headers are majorly rusty old pieces of crap. So im buying new headers for the principal of having nice new headers to go with my new 4.75L and if i pick up some flow thats even cooler. NORE is it about noise because its already plenty loud with those 44's

quiksilver225 said:
nevermind. i wash my hands of this. i always hated header threads. im going back to something involving suspension where there are no power arguments to be made, lol.

if you want to pay for more noise, get LT headers. thats what i did. am i glad i did it? well... thats a whole different discussion. dont buy an exhaust expecting to make more power, you buy a super charger or turbo or spray or gears if you want to go faster. choose your exhaust for the sound, nothing else.

MacDizzle · Oct 30, 2011

Thank you so much

thanks man, this is the kind of answer i was looking for! So since i plan on supercharging and adding a better cam in a few years shorties will work just fine. and I have less of a chance of banging them on the ground. I already scrape stuff as is! Thanks bud!

limited said:
on a n/a motor, longtubes give more power than shorties because of the scavenging. On a forced induction motor the difference between the 2 is reduced dramaticaly. In fact a lot of people over on modular fords was making more power with the shorties than longtubes on KB cars.I am going with shorties mainly because of emissions so I can install my stock midpipe and for ground clearance. I have had longtubes on just about every car I have had and although I loved the sound, i don't think one set did not at least smash the bottom tubes on the ground. a lot of money to grind the pavement lol

quiksilver225 · Oct 30, 2011

MacDizzle said:
thanks man, this is the kind of answer i was looking for! So since i plan on supercharging and adding a better cam in a few years shorties will work just fine. and I have less of a chance of banging them on the ground. I already scrape stuff as is! Thanks bud!

if your car is lowered then forget about LTs. all i do is drive around and **** up my $500 investment. i cant even take on a speed bump. get a set of KOOKS shorties. they are a little pricey, but they will last as long as u need them to.

MacDizzle · Nov 3, 2011

Just added comp cam springs today!

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