I have a 2004 V6 mustang that im looking to put a 5.0 coyote engine in it. What do i need to change suspension wise? these cars are made on an assembly line so i cant imagine that the parts are that much different other then springs, shocks, sway bar ect. dont tell me that it would be cheaper just to buy a new car! its because i want something DIFFERENT!!!!
99-04 Coyote Swap
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Wrong again Sarge, go re-read the article. They did over 60 dyno pulls with their twin turboed 4.8 LS, STOCK INTERNALS, and they mentioned that the majority of them were over 1000 hp. I'd say 60 dyno pulls is a pretty good indication of taking a beating.
And yes, I have LS experience as well.
Maybe you're confused and thinking of the old LT1
Here, in case you didn't want to go back to the link, this is directly from the article:
Run with the wastegate springs set to provide just 7 psi of boost, the engine easily produced more than 600 hp. With proper tuning, we safely worked our way past 10 psi up to nearly 15 psi, where we ran into our first issue. The combination of 7-psi springs and the manual boost controller would only allow us to reach 15 psi. While this may seem like a lot of boost on the stock short-block, the 900hp mark had come and gone, and the motor was just laughing at us.
The stock heads were shipped off to Total Engine Airflow for Stage 1.5 porting. Upgrading the heads included larger intake valves (from 1.89 inch to 2.0 inch) and CNC work to the combustion chambers and ports. Intake flow jumped from nearly 230 cfm to just shy of 300 cfm, while the exhaust flow checked in at 220 cfm.
The stock heads were shipped off to Total Engine Airflow for Stage 1.5 porting. Upgrading We stuck in a pair of 14-psi springs that, when combined with the manual controller, allowed us to reach nearly two bar-just over 26 psi. Surely that would be enough to break something. It bears mentioning that we performed all the testing on 118-octane Rockett Brand race gas, as we wanted our big bang to come from lack of component strength and not detonation. Our respect for the designers of the LS engine family grew with each successive pound of boost. Stock internals be damned, the 5.3 had come to party. The 1,000hp mark was eclipsed, followed soon by 1,100 hp and then, finally, the peak power of the night, an amazing 1,203 hp at 26.8 psi! Remember that this was on a well-worn, stock 5.3 short-block with nothing more exotic than increased ring gap. Think about that next time you hear of someone complaining about exploding an LS with only 8 psi of boost.
After eclipsing 1,200 hp, we kept going. Raising the boost beyond 27 psi resulted in what we suspect was an ignition failure. The motor was still in perfect shape internally and worked well up to 26 psi, but unfortunately we were out of available dyno time. The motor survived more than 60 runs, the majority of them more than 1,000 hp. We hammered this motor like we stole it, with repeated back-to-back pulls, but the little LS never missed a beat and was ready for more.
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As long as the tune is right, I'd have one hell of a dragster for the track... in a new edge body.
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Wouldnt be cheaper to put a 3v motor in and boost it? I know its not a coyote, but its a 300hp motor stock, going into a lighter car, you can get a control pack for it, or find a GT computer and harness, along with one of those conversion kits out there. You can get a low milage 3v pretty cheap, boost it and put more $$ into the suspension to plant it
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Nick go over to the Corvette forums and do a Little reading about the LS motors. read this a little it totally contradicts the article. Also If you do a little searching you will find alot more information very similar to this.
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/f60/maximum-horsepower-stock-ls6-when-boosted-121668/
How much HP can an LS6 take? - Corvette Forums - Corvette Enthusiast Site
One thing I will agree on is the LS9 is a bad mother.
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Well, to stir the pot a little, the 5.3* and 4.8 have never been used in a performance application, so the opinions of Corvette owners don't necessarily carry much weight when discussing them. Also are those aluminum block? While all the proper LS engines (LS1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, A) are aluminum, the other engines that get lumped in that family are mostly iron block.
* - rumor is Chevy is considering an "entry-level" C7 that will be stripped down a bit and 5.3L powered.
* - rumor is Chevy is considering an "entry-level" C7 that will be stripped down a bit and 5.3L powered.
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I'm more insulted that he keeps calling you sarge..
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I suppose alot of people confuse my username with my Rank because im a multi combat tour veteran Like many other Modded Mustang members. Thats not The case Im not a SSG, I will never tell my rank so I dont have those awkward issues. I dont think Nick means any harm, We all get into a few disbutes on here which is what makes good learning strides for me.
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Yeah SSG Pate, no disrespect at all. I'm a vet and just went with what was typical ten years ago.
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Hey Nick No biggie to me, Youve had me researching newer LS engines Tonight I just have not found any LS cars that are making anywhere over 600 that are not built or had rods and pistons changed.
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it can be done................
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Haha Im just messing with you guys, usmc grunt here,
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We don't have rank on Mustang Forums. You have honor. I would rep you if the computer would allow me to.
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Thanks eagle I feel the same way about you too Brother. you served your time back when things were much more difficult without the majority of the public support which im sure made it much more difficult my hats off to you.
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Welcome to MM I have a couple Marine Recons in my family.
Very correct! To be branded an LS"x" motor, it must be all aluminum. The 4.8, 5.3, and the 6.0 are all "truck" motors. They all have iron blocks. The LS motors in addition also get some upgraded internals. the heads castings are pretty similar across the board and can be ported for cheap and offer huge cfm.
IMO, what makes GM engines so practical to build is how interchangeable they are! I can use the cam out of an ls6 (5.7), adjust my rockers, buy new rods, and throw it in my 4.8! OR maybe i want some 5.3 heads on my LS1...you can do that too! and gain some compression too. If you want to get real crazy, find some LS2 heads, mill them a hair, find a big cam and put it all on your truck 6.0!
And let us not forget how easy it is to work on a pushrod motor! ONE timing chain!! (except for double rollers lol)
The point is that no other company has the same amount of interchangeability! THAT'S why people build them
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There is a guy with a Camaro i follow on instagram, took the LS1 out and put a 5.3 with an 88mm turbo on it and is running high 9's i think. i still like the coyote swap though, but im a ford nutswinger lol
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I would have to agree. I bought a 76 C10 about a year back for $800 n blew the head gasket. I learnt that the 305 block from 76 could take a 2005 or so Vortech head, n that would have a much higher flow compared to the 76 iron head too. It's crazy that they still had the same engine infrastructure for 35+ years.IMO, what makes GM engines so practical to build is how interchangeable they are! I can use the cam out of an ls6 (5.7), adjust my rockers, buy new rods, and throw it in my 4.8! OR maybe i want some 5.3 heads on my LS1...you can do that too! and gain some compression too. If you want to get real crazy, find some LS2 heads, mill them a hair, find a big cam and put it all on your truck 6.0!
And let us not forget how easy it is to work on a pushrod motor! ONE timing chain!! (except for double rollers lol)
The point is that no other company has the same amount of interchangeability! THAT'S why people build them
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Who would put a truck motor in a car? Oh, wait... Ford did.Very correct! To be branded an LS"x" motor, it must be all aluminum. The 4.8, 5.3, and the 6.0 are all "truck" motors. They all have iron blocks. The LS motors in addition also get some upgraded internals. the heads castings are pretty similar across the board and can be ported for cheap and offer huge cfm.
IMO, what makes GM engines so practical to build is how interchangeable they are! I can use the cam out of an ls6 (5.7), adjust my rockers, buy new rods, and throw it in my 4.8! OR maybe i want some 5.3 heads on my LS1...you can do that too! and gain some compression too. If you want to get real crazy, find some LS2 heads, mill them a hair, find a big cam and put it all on your truck 6.0!
And let us not forget how easy it is to work on a pushrod motor! ONE timing chain!! (except for double rollers lol)
The point is that no other company has the same amount of interchangeability! THAT'S why people build them
My Windsor is a truck motor.Chevy motors have always been more interchangeable than other motors. In the old days small blocks from 283 to 400 ci had interchangeable parts.
If I wanted to be unique and have something different I wouldn't put a LSx or Coyote motor in my car. I'd drop in a pushrod 460 with a roots blower and twin 4 barrel carbs. That blower sticking out above the hood would definitely be unique.
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