[1/4-horse]

I thought of that, but if it'll work with stock A arms I'll have the car on the road this spring... 351W/c4 84 LX with subframe connectors and a cage already. Someone cut the hell out of the factory K member, must have had (or wanted to put) a big block in it at one time! My neighbor (with the bad ass 1979 Capri RS) has found another Capri and is probably gonna dump the 84 cheap, so I'm looking into options. He's got a Windsor/C4 that'll go with it, another buddy has a 460/C6 out of a mid 70's Town Car that'll go real cheap. But I'm leaning towards the 351W/C4...

Thanks for the tip.

Jay

 

[86_Notch]

i vote 351 c4 my buddy and i have identical 86 coupes, same cage, same fuel system, same suspension set ups ,

my buddies car has a rebuilt 460, performer 460 intake, cam, 750 holley, tko 600 410 gears and slicks upr k member with coil overs

my car rebuilt 351 flat tappet cam , victor jr intake, 750 carb, iron windsor jrs, c4 373 dragradials upr k member with coil overs

his best run was a 12.49 @ 109 on 28 x 10 slicks
my best motor pass was an 11.73 @ 115 on 275 50 15 bfg dragradials

btw he originally had a c6 in the car but never ran it at the track, we all agree his car is quicker with the 5 speed

 

[1slo5.0]

i vote 351 c4 my buddy and i have identical 86 coupes, same cage, same fuel system, same suspension set ups ,

my buddies car has a rebuilt 460, performer 460 intake, cam, 750 holley, tko 600 410 gears and slicks upr k member with coil overs

my car rebuilt 351 flat tappet cam , victor jr intake, 750 carb, iron windsor jrs, c4 373 dragradials upr k member with coil overs

his best run was a 12.49 @ 109 on 28 x 10 slicks
my best motor pass was an 11.73 @ 115 on 275 50 15 bfg dragradials

btw he originally had a c6 in the car but never ran it at the track, we all agree his car is quicker with the 5 speed

That must be a smog 460 from the late 70s or newer. That has got to be the slowest Mustang with a 460 that I've seen. My buddy has a a real mild Mustang that he bracket races with an early 70s 460 in it and a C6 with an off the shelf TCI converter and 3.73 gears. The 460 has a Victor intake, Holley 850, a mild solid flat tappet cam and headers with full exhaust. It runs 11.30s all day. He has never messed with the carb or timing so he figures it could potentially break into the 10s but he bracket races it so he is happy with it the way it is.

 

[86_Notch]

i agree it should be faster, but it runs what it runs , i just think a windsor makes a better engine in a street car it's stronger then a 302 but lighter then a 460

 

[baine21225]

i agree it should be faster, but it runs what it runs , i just think a windsor makes a better engine in a street car it's stronger then a 302 but lighter then a 460

isn't the 302 in the windsor family?

 

[Iownastang]

isn't the 302 in the windsor family?

yes

 

[86_Notch]

technically 302 and 351 both are windsor motors, around here whenever someone says windsor everyone automatically knows they are talking about the 351, i didn't realize it wasn't the same everywhere sorry

 

[Iownastang]

technically 302 and 351 both are windsor motors, around here whenever someone says windsor everyone automatically knows they are talking about the 351, i didn't realize it wasn't the same everywhere sorry

well most people on here should know when someone says windsor that it is a 351.

 

[baine21225]

i was just being an ass, i know what you mean

 

[1/4-horse]

That must be a smog 460 from the late 70s or newer. That has got to be the slowest Mustang with a 460 that I've seen. My buddy has a a real mild Mustang that he bracket races with an early 70s 460 in it and a C6 with an off the shelf TCI converter and 3.73 gears. The 460 has a Victor intake, Holley 850, a mild solid flat tappet cam and headers with full exhaust. It runs 11.30s all day. He has never messed with the carb or timing so he figures it could potentially break into the 10s but he bracket races it so he is happy with it the way it is.

What is potentially different about your buddies early 70's engine and a 77? Is it just the lowered compression ratio, or are the heads different (flow better/worse, etc.) Like I said, it's a toss up between the BB and the 351W, both are free. If I were to swap cams, mill the heads a skosh, throw on an aluminum intake and Holley, ya think that a smogger 460/C6 would go low 12's in a stripped down 84 LX hatch body?

I realize that the Windsor would be easy to make decent power with, but there's just something about a big block...

Either way, LMK.

Thanks,

Jay

 

[1slo5.0]

What is potentially different about your buddies early 70's engine and a 77? Is it just the lowered compression ratio, or are the heads different (flow better/worse, etc.) Like I said, it's a toss up between the BB and the 351W, both are free. If I were to swap cams, mill the heads a skosh, throw on an aluminum intake and Holley, ya think that a smogger 460/C6 would go low 12's in a stripped down 84 LX hatch body?

I realize that the Windsor would be easy to make decent power with, but there's just something about a big block...

Either way, LMK.

Thanks,

Jay

Early big blocks had more compression and better heads.

As far as going 12s goes, it depends on how stock you leave the engine and how stripped down the car is. I think its a horse a piece as far as the cost goes between the two engines.

 

[Stangzilla]

I would go with the 351 and stroke it to a 408..

 

[1/4-horse]

Early big blocks had more compression and better heads.

As far as going 12s goes, it depends on how stock you leave the engine and how stripped down the car is. I think its a horse a piece as far as the cost goes between the two engines.

It's gutted, got fiberglass racing buckets, no radio, heater, etc. Someone stripped out the metal front bumper bar, the car's got a fiberglass hood too.

I'm checking out some stuff on 460ford.com right now. Any word on the SCJ aluminum heads from FRPP?

Thanks,

Jay

 

[1slo5.0]

It's gutted, got fiberglass racing buckets, no radio, heater, etc. Someone stripped out the metal front bumper bar, the car's got a fiberglass hood too.

I'm checking out some stuff on 460ford.com right now. Any word on the SCJ aluminum heads from FRPP?

Thanks,

Jay

They are good heads.

 

[Iownastang]

They are good heads.

along with the A460's

 

[1slo5.0]

along with the A460's

A460 heads are not practical for a street car budget. They kill the Cobra Jets but they cost more, require special pistons and custom headers.

 

[1/4-horse]

Cool. I'll start looking for a set for sale locally.

Thanks for the advice.

Jay

 

[1/4-horse]

Here's another dumb BB question.

If I throw on a tubular k member, w/o mount's and run a motor plate in front, what can I get away with for an oil pan? Will a stock one work, or do I have to get a special one?

I'm looking at getting a Total Performance motor plate-they're local, help the local guy out-and wondering what oil pan will work.

Thanks alot so far.

Jay

 

[Iownastang]

A460 heads are not practical for a street car budget. They kill the Cobra Jets but they cost more, require special pistons and custom headers.

oh yes i know i was just pointing them out,cj heads are capable of making great power also.

 

[1slo5.0]

Here's another dumb BB question.

If I throw on a tubular k member, w/o mount's and run a motor plate in front, what can I get away with for an oil pan? Will a stock one work, or do I have to get a special one?

I'm looking at getting a Total Performance motor plate-they're local, help the local guy out-and wondering what oil pan will work.

Thanks alot so far.

Jay

If you run no mounts you will need to run a mid plate and lateral bars as well to support and hold the engine in place. I don't think it will help your oil pan selection. No mounts generally aids in header clearance only. The rest of the K-member is the same. The rack and pinion is going to effect oil pan clearance more than the K-member will.