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heads, cam, combo major HP

3.1K views 17 replies 7 participants last post by  89StangGT  
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I had the chance to meet a major HP motor builder. When I say Major I'm talking 2500-3000 alc funny car motor builder, in some respects he is called the number 1 builder in the US. A buddy of mine runs a funny car. He is building a 125,000 motor, I'm overwhelmed at the facility. I get a few minutes of time with the builder Steve. I ask him " hey I'm a big mustang guy, I'm looking at building a 408+ stroker, street strip motor, but its been a struggle to figure out what to build. He goes into this crazy alluminum block build etc etc, I said "no I'm not into that I got a budget" etc etc He says "ohh your the guy that wants 900 hp for 3 grand, I said " no I want 600 hp and low 10'2 high 9's" so he tells me hp and et's dont mix etc etc. So we get to business, we talk what i want, street motor pump gas on and on. He tells me get a good block, old 69 or so, lots of machine work, or a new man o war etc, then cam and heads are key. custom cam, heads well all this advertisement is crap. Your mentality is go trick flow, go AFR, go edelbrock, its all crap, to go fast you start with a good head and work it from there. these box cnc heads, gimmicks are all crap when making horsepower. How is a company gonna make a head to your motor? Sure you can go 10's, 9's maybe but thats pansy times, you need heads, cam and fuel worked to your needs. We use all brodix for our big horse motors, i would suggest you use a victor head, brodix or canfield for a small hp motor and have them ported per your application. The trick flow, afr, etc are just small hp gimmick heads. They spend more money in advertising than research.
 
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Difference of opinion, and I was quoting someone that builds funny cars! it was not my opinion, if someone says anything on here that you dont like you always resort to name calling like a 5 year old on a playground, RE: your gay, your etc etc, Grow up and stop being so sexually stupid!
 
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LOL!!!!!!

Funny. I just picked up my heads and intake from a guy who also builds 2-3000 hp racecars, and he doesn't agree. All the guys I know that are running times like you described don't agree either LOL......oh and when I get my TW headed 408 on the track and get numbers, will it still be a gimmick? I always thought gimmicks didn't work LOL!!!!! And Jay Allen? His **** never goes fast hahahahahahabaha.
 
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I cant repeat everything or I would be hear typing all night, but he meant use those heads as a base and have alot of custom head work/port work done. when he said small motor he is still talking about 900+ hp
 
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Was this guy referring to using brodix heads on a ford or was he talking about chevy or mopar? I'm pretty sure than anyone that's going to be making that kind of power already has a clue and wont be asking questions on this site on how to build that type of engine, would you agree? You don't really see guys on here asking about pro kings or blue thunders or yates heads on here. This is more of guys who are building street combos. 9's is childs play to a alcohol funny car guy, but it's pretty damn good for a daily driven street car and it's been done with AFR and TF heads many times. Canfields are great heads, but the TW head improves on that design. Cant see why he would suggest a Canfield and then turn around and say TW is junk. Jay Allen used to work for Canfield and recommends TW heads for a lot of his street builds.
 
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he was indeed talking about a ford based block, I again was not voicing my opinion but his. he obviously knows what he is doing seeing that he builds a lot of your top funny car motors, but thats not the same as our street motors. I was just repeating what he said. So many people are trick flow or its slow etc afr etc etc he summed it up its what you make of it!
 
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Heads like TWs and AFRs aren't designed to make that big of horsepower. Anything with a 225cc intake runner isn't. They are small block heads, and you don't see any of those guys running small blocks. Like fogged said, they're for guys like us wanting to make a killer street car. If you want to make big power, buy a 460, and call John Kasse. He makes his own heads.
 
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