Still sticking with the v1?

 

Yeah, I think I might send it in to get upgraded to the Si trim. Not 100% sure yet. Might see what I can make out of the S trim, see if I can break 600rwhp on it. Then upgrade from there

 

im very impressed, i can tell you did your homework. very excited to see this build.

i bought all my fasteners, gaskets, pistons and cobra pump/pick-up tube combo from modmaxracing.

only thing i would suggest is using fel-pro MLS (multi layered steel) head gaskets if ur guna be making some power (which you will be) dont buy that expensive copper cosmetic BS. at 60$ a head the MLS gaskets are well worth it paired with ARP head studs.

also (and im sure you know) prepare yourself for down time at the machine shop even balancing and assembly can take a wile for any busy "renowned" raceshop or even local shop (unless you have the hook-ups ofcoarse lol) and since im assuming your using larger pistons for the 4.75L prepare to spend even more down time for boring and honing. also prepare for the bill to be more than expected, like fees for gapping the piston rings and im not sure how dirty the block is or how many miles are on it but it may also need to be de-greased.

have harmonic damper, flexplate ,and sometimes converter (depending on shop) readily available for the balancing process as well (but IIRC you have a manual trans?)

oh and post as many pics as possible lol

 

Are you happy with your modmax internals?

 

Looks good man, good luck with the build.

 

Thanks man!

I think my ultimate goal is to break 600rwhp, and run high 10's @ 130+

 

Thanks man! Reps!

Yeah, I talked to the owner at SMG, he told me for assembly, itll be $800-1000. He said that will include everything, this is what he said

" checking all bearing clearances, Piston clearances, gapping the rings, and taking all measurments to calculate compression ratio. You also get an assembly sheet with all the bolt torque specs, bearing clearances, ring gaps etc so you know exactly what you are getting."

Then he told me about another $800-1000 to have the block cleaned, honed with deck plates, balance the assembly and all that.

Good info for all the fastners at ModMax. And the head gaskets too, thanks man!

 

I have hp292s and love them, but why not go with something a little more radical, maybe a stage 3 blower cam? If it was me, I'd just get the notched pistons in the MMR1000 from them and run the biggest blower cams possible, especially with those ported heads. Not trying in anyway to steer you away or being negative, just a little curious.

Also, are you going to max out the s-trim first or go straight to a t or ysi?

 

I have hp292s and love them, but why not go with something a little more radical, maybe a stage 3 blower cam? If it was me, I'd just get the notched pistons in the MMR1000 from them and run the biggest blower cams possible, especially with those ported heads. Not trying in anyway to steer you away or being negative, just a little curious.

Also, are you going to max out the s-trim or go straight to a t or ysi?

I dont want to aggressive cams. I want it to be extremley streetable. s292's seem to be the perfect cam for that.

And possibly upgrading to the Si trim. I doubt Ill ever do a YSi, if I do it would be a while from now. Trying to skip doing the 8 rib upgrade. Figure a 10% OD and 3" blower pulley I shouldnt get any slip. Well see though!

 

Looks good by why such high compression ratio?

 

Im running methanol already. So Ill be able to bump the compression up some. And Ill probably be doing an e85 tune aswell. Thats why Im going with 80lb injectors instead of 60's

 

Oh ok cool. Looks good. Good luck with the build!

 

There are a few sets of hp292s in te for sale section here, svtp, and corral.

 

Maybe I missed it. What compression ratio are you looking at? Why are you going with ported stock heads instead of Trick Flow?

 

About 10.2:1. Cams should bleed off a little compression.

And because I dont feel like spending $2300 on heads lol. For the price, I can't justify it. Ported stock heads can get into the 700+rwhp area. Im not even looking for that much power

 

With a build like that I would definitely do 8 rib now and be done with it. I would look to atleast t trim too. Ysi is a bad ass blower.

 

Well I picked up these BBR ported heads for $600 lol. $600 + $20 valve, $160 for new rockers (figured Id just replace them all) and $250 to be inspected, hot tanked (cleaned), and decked. So Im under $1000 for heads that flow almost the same as MMR stage 3 ported heads.

TFS heads flow 242cfm and 203cfm on the exhaust. These flow alittle less, 227/177cfm at .600 lift. But the extra 15cfm on the intake side isnt worth the money.

Plus, assembled wise, I believe the BBR heads have better springs (comp hi loads), Manley +1mm oversized valves, and comp retainers. Im not sure what the TFS have?

 

Sounds like you got a great deal on already ported heads. Let us know how it turns out.

 

Shaun Here is my suggestions.
-Upgrade to the SI trim best 400$ you will ever spend.
-8 RIb upgrade to keep the belt from slipping
-Dump the fuel system and totally go return, it will cost you just a few dollars more, but without all the dangerous electrical failure possibilities. Once during a pull my FPDM fuse popped on me.. that **** could have cost me a motor, that is one of the resons I went return style.
Cams scrap the HP 292 cams they are just 2 general, with a custom motor like your building you need a custom cam. I pickep up some pretty serious power through the band with my custom cams.

 

Definitely man! Im hoping they work as good as the owner said they did lol. JohnnyZ from BBR used to run them on his car. He had an 02 GT that made like 615rwhp with a 2.8KB (I think?) and 15psi. So they must work. Then he sold the car to this guy, and said he made over 800rwhp with 22psi. Who knows though.


All these little parts to buy, it seems overwhelming. Im such a pussy lol

 

looks like a pretty crazy build. Good luck shaun

 

Thanks man!

You'd save money buying a shortblock from mmr.

A few hundred dollars yea, but I feel better having this guy balance and assemble the motor. It's worth the extra ~$500

I Would also get some rowdy cams like some cushmans stage 3s!!!

Like I said, I wanna go with some pretty mild cams. Want it to have great drivability. If I was looking for a **** ton of power then yea.


For reference, jive pepper made 597rwhp v1 s trim, s292 cams, ported heads. Pretty much same setup but I'll be running alittle more compression and timing with the meth.

 

You'd save money buying a shortblock from mmr.

 

I Would also get some rowdy cams like some cushmans stage 3s!!!

 

CMS Stage 3's or MPH blower grinds. The MPH's have a litte more lift and lsa than the HP 292's and drive like a stock cam.

 

I got xe274s lol car is streetable as can be all in the tune......but i did have ptv issues with the CMS stage 3s got em just sitting here looking pretty

 

Wanna sell em to me

 

"For reference, jive pepper made 597rwhp v1 s trim, s292 cams, ported heads. Pretty much same setup but I'll be running alittle more compression and timing with the meth."

Who else do we know that has made this kind of power on an S trim blower? I think the only one I have personally seen is jivepepper was he running like 20+PSI or something?

 

Nope, 16psi. That's what the v1 s trims max at. There's been a couple others. Guy on modular fords broke 600 with a v1 s. there's been a few. A lot of people don't bother, and just upgrade to an si, t or ysi

 

Who tuned his car? Man I just dont see how he made that on an S trim at 16PSI ported heads on pump gas. I have not seen another person on this forum get anywhere near that number he is extremely lucky. The cheapest MOD out there that gains the most power for the money is hands down the 400 dollars upgrade going from s to SI.

 

I can believe it. S trim is honestly a pretty underrated blower.

Actually, a local guy was making 505rwhp s trim, 12psi, cams, stock heads, intake and stock bottom end. Car lasted for years, ran 11.2 at 125mph.

Idk who tuned Jives car.

I'd really like to see what the s trim will do before I upgrade it. That's what I'm most likely going to do

 

my car had stock heads and intake and i would say it probably made a little over 500rwhp through the auto with the s-trim. 600 isnt impossible. I would just dump the s-trim and go jt or ysi though. lol

 

Mirror his setup and you will be exactly where you want to be. I should have done the same thing but I'm a cowboy and hard headed. I really wanted to do a turbo at first but at the time I felt it was to ricey now I feel a lot different the next motor I do will have a mister turbo.