probably not gonna happen man. those termi's are fast.

 

hmm... my car grabs the stret really well... i was surprised... it doesnt spin as bad as you would think.... What does a stock termie run in the 1/4... i killed a SRT-10 Ram

 

i would imagine it would take full bolt ons to beat a termi. is it stock? dont forget those are supercharged

 

Horsepower: 390 hp Torque: 390 ft-lbs.

 

You dont have a chance man. Sorry to say unless he shifts from 1st to 6th :dunno

 

You've got just about the same bolt ons as I do and I can outrun some of the termi's at the track. It really depends on the driver. I think you would really benefit from some new upper and lower control arms and drag radials. That would land you in the nid 12's with some practice, and a lot of termi drivers suck at the track because they like the roll racing more...

 

and a lot of termi drivers suck at the track because they like the roll racing more...

it might not necessarily be that alot of cobra guys suck at the track. with street tires, we have to launch so effin easy with light throttle to try to avoid having wheel spin and hop.

 

if you can drive then you will win. i beat my buddies bone stock cobra all the tine.

 

i beat my buddies bone stock cobra all the tine.

from digs or rolls?

 

if you have a set of gears (4.10-4.30), and he's 100% stock, and your the better driver you can win up to about 80 or so, but at 80 your pull is going to be stopped, and by 100 he's going to be passing you pretty hard.

if he's the better driver, or has just 1 mod, then you can forget it, they have no problem running mid 12's stock.

 

If he is stock and you go from a dig than I would put my money on you as long as you cut it off before 120.

 

would need to cut off long before 120.

when i had my 99 cobra, it had a bunch of weight reduction, solid, 4.10's, full exhaust, ported intake manifold, and a bunch of other goodies b time i was done with it, made 324RWHP, i was the better driver, and against my friends 100% stock 03 every time we ran from a stop i would get out about 1 car by 40, maybe 1.5 by 60, then by 80 he would stop my pull, and 100, he would pass me like i was backing up.

the i put a JLT intake, and a borla catback on his car i would get a 1/2 car out on him off the line, but once he caught traction, he was sailing past at about 40, and just putting cars on me, by 100 he typically had 2-3 cars, then started pulling even harder after that. one time i ran it up to 140 chasing him, so i assume he was already to 150+, and he was about 7 cars out.

 

with full exhaust,intake,T56, if you throw in some better suspension, gearing and a tune you can beat him all day, wanna make it interesting put the 03 cobra blower on your car and walk around him all day long

 

no he wont. its going to take gears, tune, full bolt ons, and at that point, its a drivers race with the edge going to the termi.

 

with DRs high twelves can be done in a mach, if your racing a termi that runs mid 12s, a mach with suspesnion,full exhaust,gearing,tune,intake can run better then mid 12s easily

throw in the rest of the bolt ons and it still can be closhish but mid 12s doesnt take full bolt ons

 

your on crack if you think you can do high 12's in a stock mach, its not happening. my 99 cobra after solid axle was the same damn thing, and it had full exhaust, 4.10's, bunch of weight reduction, UD pullies, JLT, ported intake, accufab TB, and on slick the best time i could manage to get was a few 12.6's, and i normally dont brag about my driving, but im a hell of a driver, many of my launches in that car you could see daylight under the front tires.

a 99/01 cobra, or 03/04 mach with full bolt on's, and gears is great off the line, but starts to fizzle out once it gets to the higher speeds mainly because of the gears.

with that being said, i have ran a best of 12.4 in a 100% stock 03 cobra, and others have gone faster.

full bolt on mach, and stock termi are a drivers race, with the advantage going towards the cobra, especially the higher the speed.

 

low 13s on street tires isnt rare in a mach 1, put very good drag radials or slicks on a mach 1 and 12s is very possible, alot of mach drivers and anyone who is very familiar with the mach 1 will tell you the same thing

 

Besides, everyone knows that Mach's are faster than 99 cobras...

 

thats very true

 

but look at it this way though. a mach weighs what, lets say 3450LBS, a termi coupe weighs 3650, 200LBS more. the LOWEST ive seen one dyno is 355RWHP, my 03 dyno'd 395, which is on the higher side of what they dyno stock. lets go in the middle at 370RWHP.

that 200LBS less weight is not going to make up for the 60HP the stock termi is going to have on him.

you cant argue with numbers.

and if the termi has even 1 bolt on... forget it.

 

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I'd have to agree with you here. If you have a Mach weighing 3400 lbs & a termi weighing 3650 lbs and the termi made 370 rwhp, under the assumption that both cars have the same solid axle, tires, etc. it would take 345 rwhp on the Mach to match the termi. Even then, the termi would still win top speed because weight has a small effect on top speed.

 

Will on here has a termi with a bolt on and I still out run his best time. We've never raced, but it's just an example. I don't even have very many mods... I say it will depend heavily on the termi drivers skill level.

 

hey if im not mistaken, youre at a good elevation. my elevation messed up my et's.

 

machs have a better suspension and somewhat stiffer chassis, not to mention a overall lighter front end, a mach is typically only faster then a 03 cobra by .2 to .3 tenths, mach ones also have slightly more aggresive camshafts then the cobras i beleive, no ones arguing that a mach can beat a 03 cobra stock, or mod for mod, but a FULL bolt on mach 1 with suspension gearing and a tune will beat a 03 cobra if its STOCK

 

a mach is typically only faster then a 03 cobra by .2 to .3 tenths,

I don't really agree with that at all. Typically the Cobra will deffinantly be faster, but on occasion you can catch someone at the track that doesn't know how to drive his car.

 

Maybe he meant the cobra is faster by .2 to .3 tenths which for some reason to me always seems sad.

 

I agree with the guys that say top end an 03 would get ya, but driver skill plays a major factor. I wish I lived closer to you. It would be fun to race you.

 

IMO driver skill doesnt play a major role in a dig race between a termi and mach with stock susp. under both and with both on street tires. i say that because a termi with stock susp. has to launch with really light throttle in order to avoid having hop, losing momentum, and risking breaking somethiing.

 

here mustangracer, lets do this.

you do full bolt on's on your mach, ill put my friends stock intake and catback back on his 03, and come up there and show you that your wrong.

just let me know when your mach is full bolt on.

 

When you guys say full bolt ons, what is all in that list? I would love to be able to run with 03 cobras like Wills and have it be fun for both of us. Good luck with your race, I have raced Will at the track and those suckers are quick. I was completely stock though so I cant really say how you would do against one.

Never hurts to try even if you lose it will still be fun, just race and tell us what happens.

 

When you guys say full bolt ons, what is all in that list? I would love to be able to run with 03 cobras like Wills and have it be fun for both of us. Good luck with your race, I have raced Will at the track and those suckers are quick. I was completely stock though so I cant really say how you would do against one.

Never hurts to try even if you lose it will still be fun, just race and tell us what happens.

oh i didnt see that u had already been in this thread. u have a really good attitude towards racing. with the mods that this guy has and the weight advantage he has, it might be a drivers race.

 

i meant an 99 cobra when i typed 03, and like i said a mach one with bolt ones can beat a STOCK 03 cobra, itll be quite awhile before my car is full bolt ons, but whats your meaning of full bolt ons? because all i have right now is my exhaust,triax,springs,and a JLT will be on in a few days, heres my list of bolts on off the top of my head

Intake
Throttle Body
Gearing
Full exhaust
Tuner
Aluminum driveshaft
DR's
shocks/springs/struts/frameties/quad shocks if you choose not to delete them/upper and lower control arm
short shifter
quick release clutch quadrant if it applies of course
plugs,coils if you choose do so

now your telling me all of that wont get you the .6 to .7 tenths itd take to beat a 03? and im sure i missed a few bolt ons but thats just off the top of my head

 

like i said, you will get ahead off the line, but by 100 that termi is going to pass you hard.

seen it many times.

 

id when i get that all done ill gladly race a 03, i mean id race one now if the chance was there but you know what i mean

 

i was talking more or less a quarter mile track

 

1/4 works too, since stock the termi will trap anywhere from 110-117.

 

I've never heard of a stock termi trapping that high. A 110 MPH is a good enough speed for very low 12's and a 117 MPH is deffinantly too high of a trap speed for a 370 rwhp car, that speed is good for an 11second pass, and that's not gonna happen in a stock termi.

 

a mach 1 with full bolt ons and suspension will beat a stock 03 cobr